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LordAro kept saying he wanted to give feedback on my hackmd document .. did I miss it, or did he only say he wanted to? :D 10:24:37 <LordAro> technically i do still have the tab open 10:41:09 <TrueBrain> lol 10:45:20 <eirc> hey guys about that kiwi christmas event, will it be streamed or something? I'd love to watch some competitive openttd :D 10:57:18 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #6979: Fix: [Win32] Align sprite glyphs to the font baseline when using Uniscribe text layout https://git.io/fpELh 10:59:24 <michi_cc> nielsm: Thanks. 11:07:23 *** nielsm has quit IRC 11:42:33 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: I deployed the latest version to staging; it is still a bit of a manual process, but I am getting there :) 11:43:12 <TrueBrain> wow, it is stupidly fast :P 11:43:25 <TrueBrain> it is looking really good, damn 11:43:26 <TrueBrain> nice work andythenorth :) 11:44:21 <TrueBrain> owh, right, we have to fix emails not being plain text I guess .. or do we believe enough in the spamfilter .. hmm 11:46:14 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: found a bug: the logo always points to the current page. It should point to the main page :) 11:46:58 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: another bug, the sorting order of news is wrong :) 11:59:50 <andythenorth> TrueBrain: file some tickets :P 12:00:07 <andythenorth> the project manager can prioritise and allocate my time :P 12:01:21 <andythenorth> or I'll look when I've done the washing up :P 12:15:01 <andythenorth> oh the header logo is weird 12:15:10 <andythenorth> can click on the 'OpenTTD' text, but not the icon 12:15:15 <andythenorth> different images 12:15:54 <andythenorth> TrueBrain: pushed 12:24:07 <planetmaker> eirc, I don't know. In principle OpenTTD allows to join games as spectator - so a streaming of the game itself technically is not necessary as you could simply join - if they make the servers publicly accessible 12:24:45 <planetmaker> it is a question you have to ask the kiwi guys, though (I did ask it them as well - but have no answer so far) 12:31:12 *** Progman has quit IRC 12:39:42 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: well, that is quick :D 12:40:00 <andythenorth> this stuff is trivial 12:40:04 <andythenorth> static sites ftw 12:40:20 <TrueBrain> its funny how quick it becomes because of that 12:44:05 <LordAro> TrueBrain: is "staging" anywhere public? 12:44:08 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 12:44:10 <eirc> nice planetmaker thanks for the input, I contacted them through the participation form I'll let ya know if get any feedback 12:44:44 <TrueBrain> LordAro: define "public", but it has an https address yes :P 12:46:39 <LordAro> TrueBrain: what is the url? 12:47:08 <Eddi|zuHause> imho "it has an https address" is not "public" 12:47:22 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: that was exactly why I asked 12:47:25 <TrueBrain> as it is not really public 12:47:27 <TrueBrain> it is just available 12:47:34 <TrueBrain> it is not meant for publication 12:47:39 <TrueBrain> just to be accessable :P 12:47:52 <TrueBrain> LordAro: https://www.staging.truebrain.nl/ 12:47:59 <TrueBrain> just a temporary address etc etc 12:48:47 <LordAro> :) 12:48:49 <Eddi|zuHause> news is definitely backwards 12:49:40 <Eddi|zuHause> is "CABBAGE" some sort of inside joke? 12:51:06 <LordAro> andythenorth: https://gist.github.com/LordAro/ff91b2a29f4876348b6d427071b4b1de turns out i didn't delete the updated ottd website template i made months ago 12:53:36 <andythenorth> you going to apply it to the new repo? o_O 12:53:48 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: CABBAGE is what one puts in templates to indicate unfinished work 12:54:01 <andythenorth> or sometimes, find where something is being injected :P 12:54:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i figured as much. wasn't the question i asked :p 12:54:25 <andythenorth> it's not a joke 12:54:30 <andythenorth> afaik 12:54:42 <andythenorth> unlike foobar 12:55:17 <andythenorth> new site is new is old 12:55:21 <LordAro> andythenorth: technically i could... 12:55:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 12:56:55 <TrueBrain> LordAro: after the initial port, you can make a PR for these things :) 12:57:01 <TrueBrain> but first we are going to move stuff one-on-one 12:57:34 <LordAro> i figured you might say that :p 12:57:42 <LordAro> i'll try not to delete it in the meantime then :p 12:57:50 <TrueBrain> you can already prepare the PR :) 12:59:18 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: added LICENSE and a start on a README :) 13:02:00 <andythenorth> yay 13:06:03 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 13:11:25 <TrueBrain> 235 news entries 13:13:07 <TrueBrain> lol .. we have a wrongly date news item it seems :D 13:13:35 <TrueBrain> hmm, no, Jekyll is acting weird 13:13:39 <TrueBrain> no title, no author, no date 13:14:29 <TrueBrain> haha, a : in the title :) 13:14:51 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: a bug; the frontpage shows ALL news items :P 13:15:09 <TrueBrain> archive too 13:15:11 <TrueBrain> no pagination :D 13:15:41 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: another bug: <!-- --> stuff is generated in the HTML, wasting space 13:15:46 <TrueBrain> seems like a silly thing to do :) 13:16:26 <TrueBrain> guess we should change those into template comments? 13:17:09 <andythenorth> yes 13:17:17 <andythenorth> Liquid might have a 'drop comment' syntax 13:17:20 <andythenorth> I can look later 13:17:21 <TrueBrain> hmm .. not all author names are showing up 13:17:22 <TrueBrain> just some 13:17:53 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: media/images/dot.png not found errors btw :) 13:18:43 <TrueBrain> an author name starting with a 't', any, doesnt work .. 13:19:07 <TrueBrain> hmm 13:19:11 <TrueBrain> this is really weird 13:19:20 <TrueBrain> sometimes adding a letter can make the author disapear 13:20:10 <TrueBrain> really weird :) 13:21:05 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe the website has synesthesia, and letters can change the colour of a word? :p 13:21:46 <TrueBrain> ah, andythenorth is doing something funky with site.people 13:21:47 <TrueBrain> not sure why :D 13:22:41 <andythenorth> it was your idea TrueBrain :( 13:22:45 <andythenorth> le sigh 13:22:52 <TrueBrain> it was? I AM BRILIANT :P 13:22:54 <TrueBrain> I have no clue 13:23:01 <TrueBrain> I also dont understand the piece of code tehre :D 13:23:06 <TrueBrain> "remove_first" .. what does that do? 13:23:32 <TrueBrain> ah, Kamnet is in the _people, that is why his name works 13:23:34 <TrueBrain> gotcha 13:23:50 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: you put me in without a nick :D EVIL! 13:24:08 <andythenorth> I haven't looked, but I think there was something there where I couldn't figure how to parse urls 13:24:17 <andythenorth> am I just doing a stupid split to drop something from path? 13:24:42 <TrueBrain> mainly, if the author is not in people, it doesnt show anything 13:25:08 <andythenorth> yes 13:25:20 <andythenorth> it will be a null key 13:25:23 <TrueBrain> do you really want to put everyone in the people list? 13:25:26 <andythenorth> dunno 13:25:34 <TrueBrain> as we have some old old names there :D 13:25:36 <andythenorth> it seemed weird to have 'people' for contacts 13:25:42 <andythenorth> and then not use 'people' for posts 13:25:54 * andythenorth wonders about a README 13:25:58 <TrueBrain> hmm 13:26:03 <TrueBrain> let me try to fiddle a bit with this 13:26:28 <andythenorth> making an entity for 'people' was an exercise in learning Jekyll 13:26:48 <TrueBrain> and leaving my Nick empty was just spite :P 13:26:50 <andythenorth> it could just be dropped, and names written out in the content 13:26:51 <TrueBrain> I understand :) 13:26:58 <andythenorth> I don't think it's winning us much 13:27:06 <TrueBrain> I like your idea to allow to link to people who we know 13:27:13 <TrueBrain> but itmight be overdoing it 13:27:16 <TrueBrain> meh .. first port 13:27:17 <TrueBrain> improve later 13:27:21 <andythenorth> I think it's overkill 13:27:21 <TrueBrain> so yeah, going to remove it for now :) 13:27:42 <andythenorth> you can replace 'contact' with a paste of the generated output 13:27:59 <TrueBrain> huh? 13:28:03 <TrueBrain> 'people' stuff is nice for contact 13:28:06 <TrueBrain> makes it easier to manage 13:28:14 <TrueBrain> just the hook into the post seems overkill 13:28:20 <TrueBrain> {{ post.author }} should be enough? 13:29:17 <andythenorth> +1 13:29:34 <andythenorth> simpler is better 13:29:42 <andythenorth> also I don't like that loop 13:33:16 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: please always end all files with one (and exactly one) \n :) 13:33:20 <TrueBrain> you had .. variantions in that :P 13:34:13 <andythenorth> I switched editor recently 13:34:21 <andythenorth> I've just found the setting in the new one 13:34:40 <TrueBrain> good :D 13:34:42 <andythenorth> now I will get complained at again at work 13:34:51 <andythenorth> and I found 'strip whitespace' 13:35:03 <andythenorth> people love my diffs 13:40:11 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: I pushed stuff 13:40:18 <TrueBrain> can you look at pagination if youhave the time? :) 13:41:15 <andythenorth> I can later today 13:41:18 <andythenorth> it won't be now 13:41:21 <andythenorth> :( 13:41:22 <TrueBrain> no real rush :) 13:41:29 <andythenorth> be nice to be 'done' 13:41:31 <TrueBrain> but now you have 235 news items to toy with :P 13:43:35 <TrueBrain> guess we should automate the thumb creation some day 13:44:35 *** lugo has joined #openttd 13:45:16 <andythenorth> I wondered 13:45:38 <andythenorth> so Ludde works at Spotify 13:45:47 * andythenorth followed a news article 13:46:02 <TrueBrain> what part about that makes you wonder? :) 13:46:11 <andythenorth> TrueBrain: would that mean ImageMagick or something on the server? 13:46:21 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: in the build-step, yes 13:46:49 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, Ludde was the founder of spotify, right? 13:46:52 <andythenorth> overcomplicate everything with a proprietary media server and a CDN 13:47:04 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: that is a first I hear that suggestion 13:47:47 <Eddi|zuHause> at least he was involved very early on 13:47:56 <andythenorth> he's not listed as a founder 13:48:03 <andythenorth> he might have been a very early engineer? 13:48:38 <TrueBrain> we are now speculating ;) Might not be the best thing in the world to continue this road :) 13:48:49 <TrueBrain> (before you know it, someone updates his wiki and now is a fact :P) 13:49:02 <andythenorth> if wikipedia doesn't know, humanity doesn't know 13:49:06 <andythenorth> so often wrong :P 13:49:41 <Eddi|zuHause> that's how the world works, right? everyone thinks they know something, and suddenly you're being accused of "fake news" when you try to correct it 13:50:06 <andythenorth> so has Eddi|zuHause implemented the pagination yet? 13:50:15 <andythenorth> most of it is probably deciding the rules 13:50:25 <Eddi|zuHause> the what? 13:50:45 <andythenorth> seems we paginate in blocks of 5? 13:50:48 <Eddi|zuHause> cross between paganism and imagination? 13:51:04 <andythenorth> the correct value is always 50 :P 13:51:09 <andythenorth> dunno why people much around with 5 or 10 13:51:18 <andythenorth> or they get it even worse, and go to endless scroll 13:51:43 *** WWacko1976-work has quit IRC 13:52:23 <Eddi|zuHause> good luck doing endless scroll on a static page :p 13:52:41 <andythenorth> probably fine 13:53:03 <andythenorth> just load more content 13:53:35 <andythenorth> xhr to a static page 13:53:58 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: I see what you mean with folders; that is pretty nasty to keep correct :D 13:54:05 <TrueBrain> I was putting screenshots in folders .. it did not like that :D 13:54:14 <andythenorth> it does not like 13:54:20 <andythenorth> 'flat is better than nested' 13:54:28 <TrueBrain> yeah ... flat is unreadable 13:54:30 <TrueBrain> so fuck that :P 13:54:42 <TrueBrain> guess I can prefix all files with the version 13:54:55 <andythenorth> how many screenshots are there? 13:55:05 <TrueBrain> 91 13:55:31 <andythenorth> pff 13:55:34 <andythenorth> that's nothing 13:55:34 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/show/src/graphics/industries 13:55:46 <TrueBrain> yeah, I am going to just prefix them all with the version 13:56:01 <andythenorth> exactly 13:56:03 <TrueBrain> I do wonder what we should do with the special screenshots 13:56:10 <TrueBrain> sorting will put them in weird places, I guess 13:56:14 <andythenorth> delete them? 13:56:35 <andythenorth> oh TrueBrain you know the prefix is irrelevant? 13:56:37 <TrueBrain> deleting the r10000 cake?! :o :o :o 13:56:51 <andythenorth> the sorting is dictated by the FrontMatter entry in the md file 13:57:02 <Eddi|zuHause> make up a fictional inbetween version number? 13:57:17 <andythenorth> we could also just do it on the filename 13:57:35 <TrueBrain> how does it know that posts filename start with a date? 13:57:48 <andythenorth> posts are a magic type of collection 13:58:02 <andythenorth> built in magix 13:58:06 <TrueBrain> too bad 13:58:12 <TrueBrain> would be nice to not repeat 'group' in md files 13:58:33 <andythenorth> we can sort on arbitrary keys in Liquid filters 13:58:37 <andythenorth> 99% certain 13:58:47 <TrueBrain> it is not the sorting 13:58:50 <TrueBrain> the information ! :D 13:59:04 <TrueBrain> now for every screenshot the name will be like: 0.4.7-blabla.png 13:59:07 <andythenorth> I mean: we can split the filename, and use that to compose groups 13:59:13 <TrueBrain> and a 0.4.7-blabla.md, with : group: 0.4.7 13:59:15 <TrueBrain> that is silly :) 13:59:18 <TrueBrain> ah, good 13:59:21 <TrueBrain> let me fiddle with that :) 13:59:31 <andythenorth> doing it reliably needs someone who is more interested in splits or regexp than me 13:59:48 <andythenorth> I have officially never written a regexp in 35 years of coding 13:59:51 <andythenorth> and I'm not starting now 14:00:05 <TrueBrain> if you have a problem you try to solve with regex ... you just have two problems 14:00:42 <andythenorth> the liquid filters are pretty good 14:00:56 <andythenorth> and Jekyll extends it with some that are custom to Jekyll 14:01:27 <LordAro> ... ([^-]+)-(.*) ? 14:02:42 <andythenorth> will the whole world get re-written in YAML? 14:02:45 * andythenorth wonders 14:03:10 <andythenorth> also we should convert NML to YAML 14:04:39 * andythenorth afk 14:05:50 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:12:33 <Eddi|zuHause> regex is like alcohol, if it's not solving your problem, you're not using enough of it yet 14:22:32 <Xaroth> What's wrong with XML?! 14:22:39 <TrueBrain> go back to your corner! 14:22:55 <Xaroth> :( 14:23:06 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc commented on pull request #6980: GDI engine for font glyph rendering as a replacement for FreeType https://git.io/fpowu 14:23:28 <Xaroth> I wonder if we can make the savegames in yaml 14:24:38 <Eddi|zuHause> we haven't done XML savegames in the laast 15 years, why would we start with yaml savegames now? 14:25:24 <Xaroth> Because it's the new thing 14:27:38 <TrueBrain> I wish it was a bannishable offense to talk stupid :P 14:29:55 <Eddi|zuHause> you have +b power, use it? 14:30:31 <Eddi|zuHause> (although i fear you'd quickly have to use it on yourself :p) 14:30:51 <TrueBrain> yeah, that is my main issue tbfh :P 14:30:56 <TrueBrain> that made me wonder if the world is fair 14:31:17 <TrueBrain> hmm .. 'alt' text is not showing 14:31:24 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: KSP uses xml savegames, iirc 14:31:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure that's incorrect 14:35:47 <LordAro> oh no, it's jsonish 14:52:04 <TrueBrain> adding 42 MiB of PNGs to git 14:52:08 <TrueBrain> is this a good idea, I wonder 15:11:31 <andythenorth> people complain it makes deployments slow 15:11:41 <andythenorth> [shrug] 15:15:37 <frosch123> spreadsheets use xml savegames 15:16:55 <TrueBrain> okay, pushing 50 MiB :D 15:17:03 <TrueBrain> we should use LFS for this, but meh 15:17:07 <Eddi|zuHause> <TrueBrain> is this a good idea, I wonder <-- what else would you do with them? 15:17:24 <andythenorth> there's a github service for binaries 15:17:24 <TrueBrain> storing binaries in git is not really .. smart :) 15:17:28 <andythenorth> or was that bitbucket? 15:17:36 <TrueBrain> either way, it is done :P 15:17:43 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: added a tons of {{ base }} to URLs 15:17:51 <TrueBrain> which seems a bit nicer than the remove_first statements :) 15:18:04 <TrueBrain> "works for me" 15:18:05 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: sometimes ideas are bad, but every other idea is even worse 15:18:11 <TrueBrain> but you might want to check if it works for you andythenorth :) 15:18:29 <TrueBrain> right, lets see if I can understand pagination :) 15:18:47 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe ask paganini? 15:19:20 <Eddi|zuHause> (wonder if i can come up with more puns using pag*) 15:20:07 <Eddi|zuHause> (was trying to do one with panini, but it didn't work out) 15:21:16 <TrueBrain> so for pagination you need jekyll-pagination, it yells, but that repo is no longer under active development 15:21:18 <TrueBrain> this feels weird :P 15:24:18 <andythenorth> 39 bad links 15:24:20 <andythenorth> not too bad 15:24:43 <andythenorth> I'll dig through those in a bit 15:29:06 <andythenorth> what is http://torrent.openttd.org:8082 ? 15:29:13 <TrueBrain> wow, that is OLD 15:29:19 <andythenorth> old posts innit :) 15:29:20 <TrueBrain> we also used to host OpenTTD on torrent 15:29:22 <TrueBrain> haha 15:29:24 <TrueBrain> yeah .. 15:29:30 <andythenorth> link integrity checker's going to find the link rot 15:29:31 <TrueBrain> I noticed a few issues with old posts 15:29:38 <TrueBrain> not sure if we want to fix that :P 15:29:52 <andythenorth> I might, just so I can get a clean 404 check 15:30:03 <TrueBrain> go for it 15:30:13 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 15:30:18 <TrueBrain> pagination works, now to make it pretty 15:30:23 <andythenorth> yay 15:30:24 <andythenorth> http://www.openttd.org/downloads.php ? 15:30:30 <TrueBrain> lol 15:30:39 <andythenorth> https://www.openttd.org/en/download-stable instead? 15:30:43 <TrueBrain> sure 15:30:48 <TrueBrain> please, just use common sense ;) 15:31:01 <andythenorth> assumes I have any spare :P 15:45:29 <TrueBrain> hmm .. I think I murdered Chrome 15:45:47 <TrueBrain> it still thinks the server is alive .. while I killed it :D (locally) 15:47:50 <andythenorth> oof 15:47:55 <Eddi|zuHause> tried https://cras.sh/ ? 15:49:27 <Eddi|zuHause> also: '"We found a proliferation of press releases, white papers, and persuasively written articles [about blockchain]," Burg et al wrote on Thursday. "However, we found no documentation or evidence of the results blockchain was purported to have achieved in these claims. We also did not find lessons learned or practical insights, as are available for other technologies in development."' 15:54:34 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: more fixes :) 15:54:45 <TrueBrain> pagination, and I changed the URLs of news to start with /news 15:54:50 <TrueBrain> easier to migrate :) 15:55:37 <andythenorth> ok 15:56:56 *** sla_ro|master2 has joined #openttd 15:57:38 <andythenorth> 2005: new servers! 15:58:03 <TrueBrain> pushed latest version to staging 15:58:17 <TrueBrain> incredible how fast things are, if they are not dynamic :P 15:59:11 <andythenorth> and how easy to work on 15:59:25 <andythenorth> I wonder why we pissed around for so many years with database driven systems 15:59:35 <TrueBrain> because DYNAMIC IS GOOD :P 15:59:53 <TrueBrain> hmm 16:00:34 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 16:01:35 <andythenorth> BUT 16:01:45 <TrueBrain> so, the things we have to fix: language status, downloads, and serverlisting 16:01:46 <andythenorth> DB MIGRATIONS THAT ARE NOT IDEMPOTENT 16:01:48 <andythenorth> and stuff 16:01:56 <TrueBrain> language status .. we might just drop it tbh 16:02:01 <TrueBrain> downloads .. I have some ideas 16:02:05 <TrueBrain> server-listing is a sysop thingy to fix 16:03:13 <andythenorth> all 404s gone 16:03:23 <andythenorth> was a bit brutal, but JFDI eh 16:03:42 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has quit IRC 16:04:05 <andythenorth> when LordAro finishes porting the skin to proper css, we can delete most of the media 16:04:11 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has joined #openttd 16:09:16 <TrueBrain> we changed history, bah :P 16:09:24 <TrueBrain> news should be immutable! :P 16:09:29 <TrueBrain> but SourceForge links are weird :P 16:10:03 <TrueBrain> I tried to change URLs to https ... not all sites accept https .. 16:10:06 <TrueBrain> which is WEIRD 16:10:32 <TrueBrain> I like the [dead link] thing andythenorth, nice 16:10:58 <TrueBrain> you added a \r 16:11:00 <TrueBrain> wtf! :P 16:11:36 <TrueBrain> but yeah .. I guess we should now lock the repo and start using PRs :) 16:11:45 <TrueBrain> think it is mature enough to do that, you agree andythenorth? 16:18:22 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has quit IRC 16:18:41 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has joined #openttd 16:21:16 <TrueBrain> CI fails, w00p :D 16:21:38 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 16:22:13 <TrueBrain> but locally it works 16:22:15 <TrueBrain> dammit :D 16:22:40 <TrueBrain> docker should be deterministic! 16:26:06 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:27:02 <andythenorth> a what now? 16:27:12 <andythenorth> my new editor is on the wrong linebreak? 16:27:26 <andythenorth> some of the post files might have broken encodings btw 16:27:28 *** lugo has quit IRC 16:27:30 <andythenorth> much ??? chars 16:27:46 <TrueBrain> fix it :P 16:27:49 <TrueBrain> possibly it is latin-8 16:27:51 *** tokai has joined #openttd 16:27:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 16:27:54 <TrueBrain> latin-8? 16:27:59 <TrueBrain> you get what I mean 16:29:26 <TrueBrain> I did not check how the UTF-8 went via MySQL .. most likely horrible :D 16:33:11 <TrueBrain> and I am sure we will find more things wrong with the news :P 16:33:40 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 16:34:42 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 16:35:20 <TrueBrain> whyyyyyyy does travis fail on something that works locally 16:35:21 <TrueBrain> weird 16:36:38 <andythenorth> oof 16:36:45 <andythenorth> I just invented cache invalidation in the shower 16:36:50 <andythenorth> not sure the world needed that 16:38:19 *** lugo has joined #openttd 16:41:16 <TrueBrain> it makesno sense why it works locally, but not on travis .. its a 'docker build' ffs 16:41:20 *** cHawk has quit IRC 16:42:28 <andythenorth> 2438 instances of slash-x{0D} 16:42:35 <andythenorth> which my editor fails to recognise 16:43:09 <andythenorth> replace with \r ? 16:44:15 <andythenorth> :P 16:44:21 * andythenorth BBL 16:44:23 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 16:44:41 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 16:47:09 <TrueBrain> hmm, indeed, lots of \r :) 16:47:13 <TrueBrain> created a PR for that 16:50:57 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 16:57:02 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> DB MIGRATIONS THAT ARE NOT IDEMPOTENT <-- "idempotent" means "if you do it twice on top of each other, you don't change the result again", is that really what you meant? 16:57:33 <Eddi|zuHause> in maths speak: a^2=a 17:08:15 *** matt21347 has quit IRC 17:11:13 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-github] pyup-bot opened pull request #20: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/fpoPl 17:11:16 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-github] pyup-bot commented on pull request #19: Scheduled monthly dependency update for November https://git.io/fpoP8 17:11:17 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-github] pyup-bot closed pull request #19: Scheduled monthly dependency update for November https://git.io/fxA8g 17:11:33 <Eddi|zuHause> https://youtu.be/NAygCpFcadk?t=275 <-- i think i'm going insane. not sure if before or after watching that video 17:12:11 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-irc] pyup-bot opened pull request #16: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/fpoPB 17:12:14 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-irc] pyup-bot commented on pull request #15: Scheduled monthly dependency update for November https://git.io/fpoPR 17:12:15 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-irc] pyup-bot closed pull request #15: Scheduled monthly dependency update for November https://git.io/fxA86 17:13:11 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-runner] pyup-bot opened pull request #11: Scheduled monthly dependency update for December https://git.io/fpoPE 17:13:14 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-runner] pyup-bot commented on pull request #10: Scheduled monthly dependency update for November https://git.io/fpoPu 17:13:15 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek-runner] pyup-bot closed pull request #10: Scheduled monthly dependency update for November https://git.io/fxA8y 17:47:01 <TrueBrain> spam spam spam 17:56:53 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest4393 17:56:55 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:00:37 *** Guest4393 has quit IRC 18:06:30 <Eddi|zuHause> but... what about eggs? 18:06:45 <Wolf01> Scrambled? 18:06:59 <Eddi|zuHause> spambled? 18:07:39 <Wolf01> Mmmh, dying connection o'clock 18:07:40 *** synchris has joined #openttd 18:08:46 <Eddi|zuHause> peak usage in your neighbourhood? 18:10:22 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 18:10:35 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 18:10:39 <Wolf01> Probably, this hour and on weekend mornings 18:32:48 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:36:47 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: I fixed \r\n issues 18:36:54 <TrueBrain> they are now alllll \n :) 18:36:56 <TrueBrain> I think .. 18:40:53 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:41:09 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:41:12 <andythenorth> super 18:43:10 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 18:43:42 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:45:19 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: how did you check for dead links btw? 18:45:22 <TrueBrain> might be good to add that as CI 18:46:10 <andythenorth> I used a mac tool called integrity 18:46:17 <andythenorth> but there are others 18:46:29 <andythenorth> at work we pay for a license of Total Validator and run it on all html pages 18:46:52 <andythenorth> seems we could do something like https://ntotten.com/2015/08/04/using-jenkins-to-detect-broken-links-on-your-site/ 18:47:10 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has quit IRC 18:47:55 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 18:48:04 <TrueBrain> last release: 2014 18:48:05 <TrueBrain> lol 18:51:13 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 18:55:09 <andythenorth> TrueBrain: what to do about translations count? 18:55:32 <TrueBrain> I do not think it helps, on the website 18:55:40 <TrueBrain> when we first added it, it gave a lot of new translators 18:55:45 <TrueBrain> but .. I do not think it does these days 18:55:56 <TrueBrain> so I was thinking about simply removing it for now 18:55:56 <andythenorth> there is some other issue with getting an account on WT :P 18:56:00 <andythenorth> I would remove it 18:56:12 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 18:56:14 <TrueBrain> we use eints these days, and are there issues? 18:56:18 <TrueBrain> I am not aware of any 18:56:45 <andythenorth> there was some nonsense about who is the translation manager 18:56:52 <andythenorth> maybe someone was trolling dunno 18:57:02 <TrueBrain> yeah; that was nonsense 18:57:09 <TrueBrain> people "demanding" to know who is being "translation manager" 18:57:14 <andythenorth> I didn't keep up with it 18:57:15 <TrueBrain> that is totally irrelvant 18:57:19 <TrueBrain> like asking who is behind info@ 18:57:21 <Xaroth> sounds like an epeen contest 18:57:32 <TrueBrain> but grumpy people can make a lot of noise 18:57:39 <Eddi|zuHause> i think the person with the banhammer won that :p 18:57:55 <TrueBrain> "they requested an account DAYS ago, WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE?! You do this all for free, AND YOU GIVE NO SERVICE" or something similar 18:58:05 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: you are absolutely correct :) 18:58:39 <andythenorth> so in my game 18:58:40 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: 'html-proofer', a ruby tool, that is maintained, seems to do the trick of checking 18:58:56 <andythenorth> nvm my game 18:59:07 <andythenorth> TrueBrain: or just write a recursive curl with logging 18:59:09 <andythenorth> 'nope' 18:59:11 <Eddi|zuHause> a few months ago another guy wanted to know about the translations manager, and i told him "you don't want to know what happened to the last finnish guy who asked about the translations manager" 18:59:34 <TrueBrain> the main issue is, it is never a question of "who is this person" 18:59:39 <TrueBrain> you have a question, ask the question 18:59:46 <TrueBrain> the witchhunting is just useless crap 19:00:06 <TrueBrain> lol ... if you curl www.ovh.de, you end up in an endless loop :D 19:01:17 <TrueBrain> guess not having a cookie means you get a redirect :D 19:01:26 <TrueBrain> bad CDN, bad! 19:04:02 <andythenorth> I want a river building tool :( 19:04:08 <andythenorth> for when I bulldozer river by mistake 19:04:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i hate pages where you need cookies like that 19:04:50 <Eddi|zuHause> out of the top: twitter or new york times 19:07:43 <TrueBrain> 173 external links .. that is a lot :P 19:12:45 <Xaroth> andythenorth: ask peter1138, he might have a patch for that. 19:15:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure that's a one-line change 19:15:25 <Eddi|zuHause> just remove the check for "you're in editor" 19:15:32 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: maybe you could add your second commit? o_O 19:15:39 <Eddi|zuHause> well, ok, maybe 3 lines 19:15:57 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: not sure i agree with the feature itself 19:16:10 <andythenorth> me neither 19:16:17 <andythenorth> but rivers get over-thought 19:16:42 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i'd rather have rivers self-repairing (like a mini-flood) if no alternate route (via canals) is provided 19:16:50 <andythenorth> so would I 19:16:58 <andythenorth> but that's a really lot more work 19:17:02 <Eddi|zuHause> and that is more than one line :p 19:24:49 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 19:36:04 <nielsm> 11:43:12 <TrueBrain> wow, it is stupidly fast :P <-- let's spearhead the "responsible web design" movement, making sites that are just fast, without wasting time downloading and executing several megabytes of javascript 19:40:37 <andythenorth> save coal 19:40:40 *** matt21347 has joined #openttd 19:40:40 <andythenorth> spend it on images :P 19:52:30 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 20:00:44 *** glx has joined #openttd 20:00:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 20:10:46 *** synchris has quit IRC 21:00:03 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:00:33 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 21:06:46 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:10:53 <andythenorth> such and very 21:36:16 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 21:36:58 *** sla_ro|master2 has quit IRC 21:57:21 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:57:41 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 22:13:05 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:17:43 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:23:43 <peter1138> Hmm, I see Yogscast are playing OpenTTD on their winter stream. 22:30:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i ever saw more than 5 minutes of yogscast 22:34:19 <LordAro> oh, again? 23:00:08 <Eddi|zuHause> it was mentioned a few times in this channel 23:00:18 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:05:37 *** gelignite has quit IRC 23:05:38 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] J0anJosep opened pull request #6985: Fix (#6974): Add filter widget to api (and a double dot from somewhere) https://git.io/fpoNj 23:25:39 *** lugo has quit IRC 23:33:45 *** matt21347 has quit IRC