Times are UTC Toggle Colours
00:36:05 *** Frankr is now known as Guest552 00:36:08 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:43:30 *** Guest552 has quit IRC 01:08:29 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 01:22:42 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 01:28:35 *** Frankr has quit IRC 01:42:38 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:45:32 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:46:29 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 02:13:01 *** aber has quit IRC 02:16:08 *** Frankr is now known as Guest562 02:16:11 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:23:20 *** Guest562 has quit IRC 03:04:11 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 03:11:32 *** Frankr has quit IRC 04:52:47 *** PeterT has quit IRC 04:57:22 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:44:56 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:00:27 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:08:34 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 08:19:34 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:23:57 *** ODM has quit IRC 08:29:10 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 10:28:00 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:02:25 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:17:51 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 11:19:59 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:30:38 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:35:09 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 11:41:00 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:49:06 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:49:06 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 11:49:06 *** Ammler has quit IRC 11:49:20 <PeterT> devzone fail 11:51:32 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:51:36 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:53:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:53:15 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 11:58:54 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:05:23 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 12:07:35 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:08:58 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 12:11:03 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 12:21:54 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:29:49 <planetmaker> PeterT, where and how? Works for me 12:29:58 <PeterT> [06:49:02] * andythenorth has quit (Quit: Bye - http://dev.openttdcoop.org) 12:29:59 <PeterT> [06:49:02] * Hirundo has quit (Quit: Bye - http.//dev.openttdcoop.org) 12:29:59 <PeterT> [06:49:02] * Ammler has quit (Quit: gone...) 12:30:12 <Ammler> ? 12:30:44 <PeterT> something happened to the devzone so that andy, Hirundo, and Ammler disconnected? 12:30:44 <Ammler> do you mean the typo in Hirundos url? 12:31:03 <Hirundo> ... ? ... 12:31:09 <Ammler> didn't you learn /version yesterday? 12:31:33 <Ammler> there was a UTF-8 bug in the webadmin, which is fixed now. 12:31:38 <PeterT> Ok 12:31:40 <Ammler> I need that for my real name :-P 12:32:37 <Ammler> Hirundo: !s/\./:/ but it might be my fault :-) 13:00:11 *** aber has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:00:57 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:41:25 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:53:53 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 15:26:57 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:27:40 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 16:01:50 *** aber has left #openttdcoop.devzone 16:02:05 *** ODM has quit IRC 16:10:48 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:40:51 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 584: Fix: The junkyard is a primary industry, thus decla... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/584> || Modern Station Set - Revision 0: Initial commit <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/modernstationset/repository/revisions/0> || Redmine - Revision 3294: Escaping in html email templates (#4874). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3294> || Redmine - Revision 3293: Fixed: Pound (#) followed by number with leading zero (0) removes leadin... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3293> || Redmine - Revision 3292: Refactor: Rewrite authenticate_dn to use an implicit return. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3292> || Redmine - Revision 3291: Refactor: Moved the check for an empty DN to authenticate_dn <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3291> || Redmine - Revision 3290: Added some common example email configs to email.yml.example (#3120) <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3290> || Redmine - Revision 3289: Fix an IndexError if all the :last menu items are deleted from a menu. #... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3289> 18:40:52 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:55:14 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:18:55 <DJNekkid> Ammler: perhaps congratulations to us :) 20:19:07 <DJNekkid> (SuperG) 20:22:51 <Ammler> DJNekkid: yes for sure 20:23:49 <Ammler> well, I like it more that way than Miller 20:25:34 <Ammler> but lets wait for Büchel ;-) 20:34:42 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:37:46 <DJNekkid> hehe! 20:37:52 <DJNekkid> what staring# is he? 20:49:54 <Ammler> DJNekkid: next 20:52:34 <Ammler> (well, not seriously) 20:52:44 <Ammler> you have your gold :-P 21:00:22 *** PeterT|Mib has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:01:19 *** PeterT|Mib has quit IRC 21:15:59 <DJNekkid> yup :D:D and perhaps one more with Marit Bjørgen@2x7,5km xcountry for women :) 21:16:55 <Ammler> oh, one Norway out already... 21:17:00 <Ammler> no Swiss there 21:17:16 <DJNekkid> but im progably gone now for a while, just started co copy 100megs from home to here, and i got a gig in 45 mins ... need a shower and a couple of beers :) 21:17:34 <DJNekkid> because that sweedish chick destroyed her skies or something with her fall 21:17:59 <Ammler> I hope tomorrow, we will get a better day again. 21:18:20 <Ammler> for me, olmypic is almost done today too :-) 21:18:21 <DJNekkid> not to shabby ... 75kb/s on mobile broadband, inside this concrete box of a hotelroom 21:18:49 <DJNekkid> you guys have little left now? 21:19:06 <Ammler> today again with cancelara 21:19:08 <DJNekkid> giant slalom, slalom? 21:19:09 <Ammler> and amman 21:19:20 <Ammler> tomorrow* 21:19:26 <DJNekkid> thats skijump right? 21:19:34 <Ammler> Yes 21:20:07 <Ammler> but one of the nicest things happens yesterday on hocky against canada 21:20:15 <DJNekkid> hopefully one of our guys can match your guys :) just dont let the fins or austrians wins :) 21:20:47 <Ammler> our team has special climps or how you call that 21:20:59 <Ammler> the thing between ski and shoe 21:21:21 <DJNekkid> i have NO idea what that is :) 21:21:46 <Ammler> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ski_binding 21:21:47 <Webster> Title: Ski binding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 21:21:57 <DJNekkid> oh, the binding :) 21:22:49 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: MiniGRFs - Feature #746 (New): Presets for base costs <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/746> 21:23:21 <Ammler> he, that is almost German :-P 21:23:44 <DJNekkid> and norwegian 21:24:10 *** Frankr has quit IRC 21:24:26 <DJNekkid> its a "Ski binding" på norsk as well 21:24:37 <DJNekkid> ehm, in norwegian as well 21:24:49 <Ammler> hehe 21:25:03 <Ammler> the Austrians complained about it 21:26:18 <DJNekkid> but; im gone now, shower -> beer -> gig 21:38:22 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 16: Add: ArmEagles catenary sprites <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-extra/repository/revisions/16> 22:22:16 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:33:46 *** GT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:42:13 <GT> Ammler, wouldn't it be an idea to include the tar of the 32bpp-extra project (including the newgrf) in the 32bpp megapack? Just to prevent questions about wrong coast tiles etc. 22:44:54 <Ammler> Hello GT 22:45:19 <Ammler> why do you ask? I would include the GRF to the tar, yes. 22:46:32 <GT> That's already the case, the grf is in the tar, but you also have a megapack, a.o as torrent, that could include the tar of the 32bpp-extra project 22:46:53 <GT> So end-users have a onestop download 22:47:51 <Ammler> oh, that is just an alternative download option because I hate those upload services 22:48:32 <Ammler> I used the pack from tt-forums 22:49:11 <Ammler> not meant to become a opponent pack 22:50:21 <Ammler> my idea was also to give the guy which compiles the pack on tt-forums the possibility to upload it self. 22:50:31 <Ammler> but he seems not interested 22:51:29 <Ammler> also the pack is available as http download: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/torrents/32bpp-FullPack-EZL/ 22:52:17 <GT> I hate upload services too, and I did not mean to become an opponent pack, but have such a pack would have a lot of benefits. E.g when png were added to a 32-bpp project, the symlinking etc could be done automatically on the server, without having to upload the new pack to the upload services. 22:52:57 <Ammler> I very much like the torrents, because it is a kind of autoupdater 22:53:37 <GT> Agreed, nothing wrong with the torrents, I meant the rapidshares etc. 22:53:57 <Ammler> the only service there, which worked for me was filefactory 22:54:14 <Ammler> the others were impossible for my server 22:54:19 <Ammler> (cli download) 22:56:06 <GT> Right, the link you gave is the one I was referring too. If that pack were constructed from an openttdcoop project, the tars with symlinking could be done automatically, and it could also include the tar with the newgrf of the 32bpp project. 22:57:08 <Ammler> GT, all fine with me 22:57:08 <GT> and then it could be available as http download, or torrent or hg repo, so not everytime the complete pack download would be needed 22:57:23 <Ammler> quite easy to make a torrent on the server 22:57:29 <Ammler> also to add it to the seed 23:00:07 <GT> Btw, I've announced the 32bpp-extra project on the forums, though I'm not too sure everybody understands the benefits of it. 23:02:56 <Ammler> Well, they will understand it next time openttd.grf will add a sprite 23:05:03 <Ammler> currently there is still the disadvantage of need to load the grf 23:05:43 <Ammler> if all is setup, it might be time to create a FS post about so you have official developer feedback 23:06:04 <GT> FS post? 23:06:12 <Ammler> bugs.openttd.org 23:06:18 <GT> oh, flyspray 23:06:22 <Ammler> yes 23:07:00 <Ammler> something like autoloading of the grf if 32bpp blitter is set 23:07:15 <GT> I did add some comment about that in the issue you added on the 32-bpp-extra project 23:07:23 <Ammler> or maybe Rubidium has another idea, dunno :-) 23:07:44 <GT> I think autoloading a certain grf wouldn't be a real problem, I guess 23:07:59 <Ammler> dunno, if Rubidium follows the project ;-) 23:08:25 <Ammler> he is here mainly for open[g|s]fx :-) 23:08:44 <GT> but ignoring 8bpp pcx will cause trouble 23:09:10 <GT> since it will effect the way newgrf is handle pretty severe 23:09:51 <GT> Well, Rubidium was the one that convinced me to make a newgrf for the extra.grf 23:09:54 <Ammler> well, that was just a thought to support both 8bpp sets 23:10:07 <Ammler> :-D 23:10:19 <Ammler> indeed, you didn't believe me until he spoke :-P 23:12:04 <GT> Nothing personal, believe me 23:13:36 <GT> It's just that I'm kind of technically oriented, and technically oriented arguments are the best to make me change my mind. 23:15:49 <GT> I do like the idea of not loading the 8bpp though, but I foresee several implementation problems, so that idea might not make it, especially it will not be relevant when a complete set of 32bpp sprites are available 23:16:03 <Ammler> hardly I take something personally.... 23:19:10 <GT> Well, maybe I'm gonna take the extra zoom patch also to your devzone. I'm getting to like the workflow 23:19:53 <GT> And I guess merging with trunk can still be done if I set an hgignore on the svn data from trunk? 23:25:11 <Ammler> the question is what you prefer, Hirundo seems to transfer from branch working to patch queue 23:25:38 <Ammler> but you can also use the devzone for versioned patch :-) 23:25:51 <Ammler> we also have svn 23:26:07 <Ammler> just nobody uses it anymore. 23:26:21 <Ammler> (except me) 23:28:14 <GT> Yes, I know, but then I would run into trouble when trying to sync with trunk (I use svn for that). Having the patch on hg, and trunk on svn would allow to update svn from trunk, merge the patch if needed, and then update to hg 23:28:50 <Ammler> well, dunno how it works 23:29:03 <Ammler> hg would have the benefit to work with multiple patches 23:29:45 <Ammler> with the patch queue you can split some parts like for example the distro patch does 23:30:12 <Ammler> or the future IS patch will.... 23:30:28 <Ammler> on svn, you would need 3rd party software 23:30:42 <GT> I must admit Im not familiar with the patch queue, can you explain it a bit? 23:31:01 <Ammler> patch queue means like one branch per patch 23:31:18 <Ammler> you can enable/disable a patch quite easy 23:31:44 <Ammler> and the patches itself are noted for example in annotate 23:32:08 <Ammler> and you can make a own repo for the patch queue 23:33:59 <GT> What I meant was that svn and hg use a hidden dir to save their data: .svn resp .hg. When I put the patch on svn, the update from trunk would override the svn data from openttdcoop. When I put it on hg, I can do an svn up on trunk, and then push it to hg on openttdcoop. 23:34:42 <Ammler> well, then you should pull from the hg repo of openttd directly 23:34:50 <Ammler> easier to merge 23:35:15 <Ammler> but that is not really experience 23:35:21 <Ammler> myself isn't a dev 23:35:42 <GT> About the patch queue, that is a branch per patch in which vcs? 23:35:45 <Ammler> but it is how for example Hirundo or also some devs work 23:36:02 <Ammler> it is _like_ a branch 23:36:36 <Ammler> of course, branches are something else, also a possibilty 23:37:17 <Ammler> well, vcs would be hg 23:40:15 <GT> Ok, then I've got a hg clone of trunk, make a branch of it, apply the changes of the patch on every update. Sorry, but I still don't quite get it, maybe I should talk to Hirundo before making a decision 23:43:22 <Ammler> branch is fine too 23:44:27 <Ammler> but if you use only one branch, you can as good use default, so it easier to request a compile run from the openttd.org cf 23:45:31 <GT> ok, quitting now, cu :) 23:46:09 <Ammler> yeah, bye 23:47:54 *** GT has left #openttdcoop.devzone