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00:00:33 <Ammler> sh is also the shell used by obs 00:01:10 <Ammler> hmm, on suse /bin/sh is symlinked to bash 00:01:51 <Rubidium> it's that way on most Linux systems 00:02:07 <Rubidium> but e.g. solaris ha(d|s) his own sh implementation 00:03:01 <Ammler> I remeber I once proposed to define /bin/bash as shell 00:03:12 <Ammler> as we can't test other shells 00:03:24 <Rubidium> you'll be shot by the Windows users 00:03:31 <Ammler> but planetmaker declined ;-) 00:03:45 <Rubidium> cause mingw/msys does only provide /bin/sh (which is bash) but no /bin/bash 00:04:08 <Ammler> the Makefile does detect that 00:06:34 <Ammler> hmm, we can test dash on our ps 00:06:36 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: British Rail OpenTTD Set - Support #780 (Closed): Forums Upgrade <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/780#change-2088" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/780#change-2088> || British Rail OpenTTD Set - Support #780 (Closed): Forums Upgrade <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/780> 00:16:16 <Ammler> [00:57] <patchbot> SVN commit: r2307 by DaleStan (3 files in misc/nforenum/): Fix, I think, issues with actions 1, 3, and 4 with an unknown feature.; By Yexo: Add support for feature 10. <-- does this support all 4 patches? 00:18:17 <planetmaker> I guess not 00:19:13 <Yexo> Ammler: no, still no support for feature 11 (airport tiles), I haven't uploaded that one to the nforenum forum topic yet 00:19:36 <Rubidium> Ammler: just apply all patches to r2306 and update 00:20:01 <Yexo> and my patch 02 wasn't complete, r2307 is (hopefully) 00:20:06 <planetmaker> he :-) Might be a good time to approach him now :-) 00:22:11 <planetmaker> Rubidium: if == is the issue, does http://paste.openttd.org/225179 fix the problems? 00:22:14 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: British Rail OpenTTD Set - Support #780: Forums Upgrade <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/780#change-2089> 00:22:56 <Rubidium> planetmaker: 00:58 < Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/opengfx.diff <- solves the problem + removes some trailing whitespace 00:23:22 <planetmaker> he... missed that :-) Ty 00:23:23 <Rubidium> but yes, that's 'my' diff minus the trailing whitespace changes 00:23:24 <Yexo> planetmaker: tomorrow (after I update the last patch) will be better 00:37:23 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 319: Change [Makefile]: Update to makefile r68 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/319> || Example NewGRF Project - Revision 68: Fix: Remove a few bashisms (Rubidium) <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/68> 00:40:25 <Ammler> == looks more like pmism than bashism ;-) 00:42:26 <Ammler> at least, what my man page tells about test, it might be, bash is a bit friendlier to it... 00:43:39 <Ammler> planetmaker: what about the 32bpp_extra? 00:44:13 <planetmaker> that's geektoo's Makefile, though based upon mine 00:44:38 <Rubidium> argh... 00:44:45 <planetmaker> I won't change that without his consent :-) 00:45:07 <Ammler> it also uses some the bad behavior of your old Makefile 00:45:08 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/opengfx.diff <- I would really like it if that 'controversial' change gets implemented :) 00:45:13 <Ammler> like no subdir 00:45:52 <Ammler> he, is there a tool in Debian called renum? 00:45:56 <planetmaker> tralllala :-) 00:46:47 <Rubidium> Ammler: no, but renum is quite global. Furthermore Fedora, which packaged nforenum earlier has renamed it to nforenum 00:47:44 <Rubidium> nevertheless, the change I propose in Makefile.local.sample is to... uhm... prevent getting the false sense of "I've set nforenum right, right?" 00:48:19 <Rubidium> make mrproper in a bundled source removes opengfx-nightly.md5 (I think in that case it's cleaning a bit too much) 00:48:32 <planetmaker> Uhm... I should rather propagate also the proper Makefile.local.sample :-P 00:49:02 <Ammler> planetmaker: I move your example project back to ottdc 00:49:59 <Ammler> or if you change permissions next time 00:50:00 <planetmaker> ok 00:50:09 <Ammler> do it recursive ;-) 00:50:18 <Ammler> what is your pull/push url? 00:50:19 <planetmaker> Ammler: I did... 00:50:53 <planetmaker> default-push = ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/newgrf_makefile 00:51:18 <Ammler> ok, that is why... :-) 00:51:35 <Ammler> then we can safely move it back... 00:51:57 <planetmaker> yep 00:53:40 <Ammler> so, it is again readable by redmine 01:07:15 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:08:24 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 320: Change [Makefile]: Update to makefile r70 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/320> || Example NewGRF Project - Revision 70: Change: Let the example Makefile.local reflect the definiti... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/70> || Example NewGRF Project - Revision 69: Fix: Don't copy the sample makefile into the wrong dirs... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/69> 01:19:23 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 03:47:55 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 03:47:55 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 03:47:55 *** Guest537 has quit IRC 03:48:19 *** Ammler has quit IRC 03:48:33 <PeterT> devzone fail 03:50:24 <DJNekkid> epic or standard? 03:51:31 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 03:51:36 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 03:52:33 <PeterT> Standard, DJNekkid 03:53:02 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 03:53:10 <DJNekkid> oki :P 03:54:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 03:55:03 <DJNekkid> been a good caturday? 03:55:41 <PeterT> Yeah, I guess 03:55:43 <PeterT> I'm sooo tired 03:55:51 <PeterT> In fact, I'm going to sleep very soon 03:59:52 <DJNekkid> drunk as well, or is that just me? 04:00:01 <PeterT> Just you 04:00:04 <DJNekkid> hehe 04:00:06 <PeterT> gooood night 04:00:07 <DJNekkid> btw ... 04:00:13 <PeterT> yeh 04:00:22 <DJNekkid> any chance of a cargodist >r19306 ? 04:00:28 <PeterT> Coming up tommorow 04:00:32 <DJNekkid> :d 04:00:36 <DJNekkid> :D 04:00:39 <DJNekkid> goodie! 04:00:58 <DJNekkid> now! sleep! :D 04:01:05 <PeterT> I had trouble compiling today, mainly because my careless errors 04:01:07 <PeterT> anyway 04:01:09 <PeterT> Good night 04:01:17 <DJNekkid> hehe! you to buddy! 04:01:26 <PeterT> DJNekkid: Also, do you want me to merge with latest trunk so that it has realistic accell? 04:01:44 <DJNekkid> sure? why not? 04:01:48 <PeterT> Ok 04:01:49 <DJNekkid> point was... 04:02:05 <PeterT> Really good night now 04:02:08 <DJNekkid> cargodis + nutracks + 2cc = a good challang = fun! 04:02:16 <DJNekkid> *challange 04:02:18 <PeterT> lol 04:03:06 <DJNekkid> but, with nutracks i think i might need to adjust the runningcosts down 25% or something 04:03:11 <PeterT> bubai 04:03:28 <DJNekkid> either way! good night! 06:58:06 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:52:07 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:17:31 *** Frankr has quit IRC 08:28:55 <planetmaker> @base 10 16 160 08:28:55 <Webster> planetmaker: A0 08:32:10 <planetmaker> @base 10 16 164 08:32:10 <Webster> planetmaker: A4 08:46:28 <planetmaker> @base 16 10 29 08:46:28 <Webster> planetmaker: 41 08:53:05 <planetmaker> @base 10 16 2000 08:53:05 <Webster> planetmaker: 7D0 08:53:14 <planetmaker> @base 10 16 230 08:53:14 <Webster> planetmaker: E6 08:54:54 <planetmaker> @base 10 16 160 08:54:54 <Webster> planetmaker: A0 08:54:59 <planetmaker> @base 10 16 600 08:54:59 <Webster> planetmaker: 258 09:12:32 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:52:54 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 11:38:35 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:43:51 <DJNekkid> good morning :D 11:48:12 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Bug #782 (Confirmed): ground tiles for sugar mine <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/782> || OpenGFX - Bug #781 (Confirmed): farm hedges not properly aligned <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/781> 12:21:01 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Bug #779 (Closed): Sugarmine and Toyfactory animation glitch (Fix attached) <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/779#change-2090> || OpenGFX - Revision 322: Fix [#779]: Sugar mine and Toy factory animation glitches (frosch) <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/322> || OpenGFX - Revision 321: Fix: Keep the shortname the same, also its capitalization <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/321> 12:36:13 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenSFX - Revision 76: Fix: Keep the shortname the same, also its capitalization <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opensfx/repository/revisions/76> 13:37:03 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:57:11 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:00:26 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 15:07:20 <PeterT> @seen DJNekkid 15:07:20 <Webster> PeterT: DJNekkid was last seen in #openttdcoop.devzone 3 hours, 23 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <DJNekkid> good morning :D 15:07:29 <PeterT> DJNekkid: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=862476#p862476 15:07:31 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Cargo Distribution (at www.tt-forums.net) 15:07:31 <PeterT> There ^ 15:07:52 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:14:59 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 15:16:58 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:30:03 <DJNekkid> i were wanted? 15:30:39 <PeterT> Yes 15:30:41 <PeterT> DJNekkid: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=862476#p862476 15:30:43 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Cargo Distribution (at www.tt-forums.net) 15:34:03 <DJNekkid> wee :D 15:34:12 <PeterT> yeap 15:45:55 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 15:57:11 <PeterT> DJNekkid: Also, 15:57:13 <PeterT> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=862484#p862484 15:57:14 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Alternate Economy (at www.tt-forums.net) 16:11:03 <Frankr> DJNekkid 16:11:27 <Frankr> @seen DJNekkid 16:11:27 <Webster> Frankr: DJNekkid was last seen in #openttdcoop.devzone 37 minutes and 23 seconds ago: <DJNekkid> wee :D 16:24:52 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 26: Codechange:adapt to new makefile system <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-extra/repository/revisions/26> 16:27:53 <DJNekkid> Frankr: what? :) 16:28:45 <Ammler> you guys must be blind... 16:29:33 <Frankr> DJNekkid: Doesn't matter anymore i should have solved it now 16:36:52 <DJNekkid> oki 16:37:04 <DJNekkid> what were the problem? 16:52:54 <Frankr> my train grf wasn't using the graphics 16:53:17 <Frankr> i had Action 0 prop 12 on FF 16:53:19 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:00:19 <DJNekkid> needs FD :) 17:01:11 <Frankr> yh it does, lol 17:23:14 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 17:34:03 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:11:59 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 34: Merge <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/34> || Nutracks - Revision 33: Change: General cleanup of code <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/33> 18:20:48 <Ammler> you still silence warning 44? 19:06:43 *** LA has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:44:17 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 19:45:43 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 27: Feature:Arctic coast tiles <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-extra/repository/revisions/27> 20:00:54 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Example NewGRF Project - Support #784 (New): zip? <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/784> 20:03:19 *** LA has quit IRC 20:06:04 <Ammler> planetmaker: ^ ? 20:07:39 <planetmaker> your answer is what I'd answer, too. Does the local makefile need copying there or so? 20:09:01 <Ammler> just checked, it is there 20:10:25 <Ammler> #-include ${MAKEFILELOCAL} <-- explains ;-) 20:10:35 <Ammler> or is that right? 20:10:49 <DJNekkid> hmm, im wondering what im doing wrong on the nutracks gfx 20:11:39 <planetmaker> without # 20:11:49 <planetmaker> as quoted it's commented out 20:13:57 <Ammler> yes, made a code review 20:16:51 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Example NewGRF Project - Support #784 (Closed): zip? <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/784#change-2092" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/784#change-2092> || 32bpp-extra - Bug #785 (New): enable Makefile.local <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/785> || Example NewGRF Project - Support #784: zip? <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/784#change-2091" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/784#change-2091> || Example NewGRF Project - Support #784 (Closed): zip? <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/784> 20:17:16 <Ammler> btw., am I the only one using Code Reviews? 20:17:27 <Ammler> is that such a useless feature? 20:18:37 <PeterT> perhaps you are the only one using it correctly :-) 20:20:26 <Ammler> you can't use it wrongly :-) 20:20:28 <planetmaker> Ammler: no, it's not :-) I just thought that it's a good thing I might use more often :-) 20:21:03 <Ammler> it is easy to comment a piece of code directly 20:21:09 <planetmaker> though most often people either propse "<general thing> doesn't work" or provide a patch 20:21:13 <Ammler> well, patches like Rubidium does are better ;-) 20:21:51 <Ammler> yeah, but patch needs checkout of the source 20:22:02 <Ammler> and that, I don't have of the 32bpp thing 20:23:23 <Ammler> Maybe it would be easier to install zip on our server ;-) 20:23:49 <Ammler> but as we started with it, there were more things in the Server Makefile 20:25:01 <planetmaker> Ammler: you could have moved the issue to the project ;-) 20:25:22 <Ammler> he, indeed :-P 20:25:57 <Ammler> it is closed, so don't matter anymore... 20:26:04 <planetmaker> ;-) I moved it despite 20:26:38 <Ammler> we should use our power ;-) 20:26:56 <planetmaker> though I actually consider to re-open it, so that it is still visible... Dunno, though 20:27:07 <Ammler> btw, I activated cross project issues... 20:27:49 <Ammler> planetmaker: no need, he got mails... 20:28:06 <planetmaker> oh, that thing exists? Nice 20:29:16 <Ammler> yeah, as you made your md5sum in the Example project and linked to the opengfx 20:29:25 <Ammler> next time that should be linked 20:29:37 <planetmaker> he :-) 20:29:38 <planetmaker> nice 20:30:16 <Ammler> hmm, we could reread the repo 20:30:22 <Ammler> so it does already... 20:31:56 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Bug #784 (Closed): zip? <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/784#change-2092" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/784#change-2092> || 32bpp-extra - Bug #784: zip? <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/784#change-2091" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/784#change-2091> || 32bpp-extra - Bug #784 (Closed): zip? <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/784> 20:39:36 <Ammler> no 20:39:38 <Ammler> :-( 20:39:41 <Ammler> didn't work 20:39:52 <Ammler> it only allows cross project relations 20:40:00 <Ammler> between tickets 21:14:03 <DJNekkid> hmm, adding the nutracks gfx is a small bitch! 21:17:34 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Bug #785 (Closed): enable Makefile.local <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/785#change-2094" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/785#change-2094> || 32bpp-extra - Revision 28: Fix #785:Include makefile.local for nightlies <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-extra/repository/revisions/28> || 32bpp-extra - Bug #785 (Closed): enable Makefile.local <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/785> 21:45:38 <DJNekkid> anyone there? 21:52:36 * planetmaker yawns 21:54:57 <andythenorth> nobody here 21:55:06 <PeterT> andythenorth: No 22:00:46 <DJNekkid> i've added gfx to the nutracks 22:00:51 <DJNekkid> they do look abit pale tho :( 22:01:16 <planetmaker> he... :S 22:01:24 <planetmaker> nick "nobody" is in use, btw 22:02:52 <DJNekkid> have a look in the nutracks dev thread 22:02:56 <DJNekkid> or release thread 22:05:14 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 35: Add: All gfx available are now coded in. I.e. the tracks looks different.... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/35> 22:05:34 <Ammler> DJNekkid: can't you make individual fenches? 22:06:20 <DJNekkid> im not sure, i can? 22:07:25 <DJNekkid> yes i can 22:09:15 <Ammler> wouldn't that be an idea for graphics variation too? 22:09:51 <Ammler> for example the very slowest without any 22:10:22 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:10:36 <DJNekkid> sure! :D 22:11:25 <Ammler> :-) 22:11:58 <DJNekkid> and: 22:12:10 <DJNekkid> any thoughts on colors to use on the minimap? 22:12:16 <DJNekkid> the different types can have different color :D 22:12:28 <planetmaker> :-) different gray shades 22:12:53 <planetmaker> and the tracks look really nice :-) 22:13:14 <planetmaker> The 120km/h type looks a bit plain, though 22:13:29 *** Yexo has quit IRC 22:13:40 <DJNekkid> ya 22:13:59 <DJNekkid> i've posted Zeph, and he agreed that they looked abit pale... 22:14:14 <DJNekkid> and he would do something about it at some point 22:14:47 <Ammler> what does "stock" mean? 22:14:55 <planetmaker> default I assume 22:15:00 <DJNekkid> correct 22:15:04 <planetmaker> as is w/o newgrf 22:15:48 <DJNekkid> correct 22:16:54 <planetmaker> btw, Ammler I counted this morning the number of bug reports on FS where people used OpenGFX vs. those with original set. 28:22 ;-) 22:17:12 <Ammler> he :-) 22:17:25 <Ammler> does that mean, opengfx is buggier? 22:17:43 <planetmaker> No, not related to graphics. Just looking what people used 22:17:52 <Ammler> :-D 22:18:36 <planetmaker> I just needed to get a rough guestimate of the percentage of people which use it ;-) 22:18:51 <DJNekkid> @calc 28/50 22:18:51 <Webster> DJNekkid: 0.56 22:19:04 <DJNekkid> ^^ 22:19:37 <planetmaker> Well. 50+% is a sufficient number, the numbers itself too small for better than 10% accuracy 22:20:44 <DJNekkid> yea, but still ... +-50% use opengfx now 22:20:47 <Frankr> can we calc logs? 22:35:57 <Ammler> good night all 22:36:26 <DJNekkid> nn 22:49:50 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:51:07 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 36: Change: Different tracks have different colors on the minimaps from light... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/36> 22:56:26 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 23:09:40 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 23:18:24 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:37:24 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 37: Fix: X-intersection were switched with an underlay <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/37>