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00:06:09 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Client Patch Pack - Revision 750: Update: client_patches to r19523 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/clientpatches/repository/revisions/750> 00:17:22 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:44:59 *** V4530000 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:44:59 *** Hirundo_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:45:25 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 00:45:25 *** V453000 has quit IRC 00:45:25 *** Hirundo_ is now known as Hirundo 00:45:25 *** V4530000 is now known as V453000 00:45:33 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 00:45:37 *** pm has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:45:38 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 00:45:58 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:45:59 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 06:29:12 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenMSX - Revision 48: Fix: Don't rebuild the md5sums file which one checks against <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/openmsx/repository/revisions/48> || Redmine - Revision 3467: Adds a css class to issue id tds (#5204). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3467> 06:31:50 *** pm is now known as planetmaker 07:18:04 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:25:05 *** ODM has quit IRC 10:59:53 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-EZ - Support #874: Create repository <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/874#change-2377> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - firs-0.1.1-source.tar.gz.md5 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/641/firs-0.1.1-source.tar.gz.md5> 11:02:12 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:04:53 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:05:52 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:11:59 <Rubidium> Ammler: I share your opinion w.r.t. #874 11:16:47 <planetmaker> hm, yes 11:17:27 <Rubidium> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/hg/32bpp-ez/rev/1dab95052e0c <- that one just sums *everything* up 11:18:00 <Ammler> an the ugly part is, he merged trunk and patch before commit 11:18:22 <Ammler> so it isn't that easy possible to view the patch only 11:19:42 <Ammler> it is fine, that he likes to keep history also of his patch, but it could be done with real hg merges 11:19:57 <Ammler> as hg clone/pull supports checkout to a certain revision 11:21:07 <Rubidium> not to mention that his NewGRF support is kinda broken because version detection is horribly broken 11:21:13 <Ammler> but before I (we) can help, we need to know, if he prefers branch or patch queue 11:22:44 <Ammler> he, indeed. 11:23:15 <Ammler> findversion is kinda lost to find "(svn:*" changesets 11:40:40 <Brot6> Hello, does console->irc bridge work again? 11:44:36 <Ammler> Welcome back Brot6 :-) 11:47:33 <Rubidium> why would I need a bridge for that? For me it's just called irssi 11:48:08 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r491 to r493, starting nightly compile 11:48:35 <Ammler> Rubidium: no you but me :-) 11:49:01 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: compile done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/ 11:49:01 <Brot6> 32bpp-extra: nightly compile not needed. (r31) 11:49:01 <Brot6> airportsplus: nightly compile not needed. (r42) 11:49:02 <Brot6> bros: nightly compile not needed. (r10) 11:49:02 <Brot6> comic-houses: nightly compile not needed. (r69) 11:49:03 <Brot6> firs: update from r755 to r757, starting nightly compile 11:49:42 <Brot6> firs: compile done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/ 11:49:42 <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r256) 11:49:43 <Brot6> heqs: update from r307 to r308, starting nightly compile 11:50:34 <Brot6> heqs: compile done (0 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/heqs/nightlies/ 11:50:34 <Brot6> nmts: nightly compile not needed. (r15) 11:50:34 <Brot6> nutracks: update from r53 to r55, starting nightly compile 11:50:48 <Brot6> nutracks: compile done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nutracks/nightlies/ 11:50:48 <Brot6> opengfx: update from r406 to r407, starting nightly compile 11:52:04 <Brot6> opengfx: compile done (0 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/ 11:52:05 <Brot6> openmsx: update from r47 to r48, starting nightly compile 11:52:16 <Brot6> openmsx: compile done (0 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openmsx/nightlies/ 11:52:16 <Brot6> opensfx: update from r85 to r86, starting nightly compile 11:52:53 <Ammler> hmm, the "not needed" could be collected to one output at the end 11:53:02 <Brot6> opensfx: compile done (0 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opensfx/nightlies/ 11:53:03 <Brot6> snowlinemod: nightly compile not needed. (r9) 11:53:03 <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r636) 11:59:49 <planetmaker> yes :-) 12:00:10 <Rubidium> also one line per compile should be enough 12:00:35 <Rubidium> foo: update from rX to rY (n errors) - url 12:03:42 <Ammler> then I need to change it to "updated" :-) 12:04:34 <Ammler> also is it fine to get only one building log file 12:04:36 <Ammler> ? 12:05:07 <Ammler> hmm... 12:07:52 <Ammler> planetmaker: say !hello 12:14:33 <Ammler> planetmaker: the .rev file you write, maybe we could make that a bit more verbose like the finger files of openttd? 12:15:37 <planetmaker> !hello 12:15:37 <Brot6> yo planetmaker! 12:16:34 <Ammler> <rev> <date> <project> <release|nightly> 12:17:05 <planetmaker> I can't put the date in the name 12:17:15 <Ammler> name? 12:17:21 <planetmaker> I can write INTO the file anything you like. 12:17:24 <planetmaker> in the filename 12:17:34 <Ammler> yes, I mean the content of the file 12:17:47 <planetmaker> The content of the file right now is 0 bytes 12:17:52 <Ammler> so I could cat one big devzone finger :-) 12:17:57 <planetmaker> And I don't care about it ;-) 12:18:19 <planetmaker> Just give me the exact format specification you like. 12:18:34 <Ammler> I just gave 12:18:51 <planetmaker> make it a ticket 12:18:55 <Ammler> it should be quite compatible with openttd finger versions.txt 12:18:59 <planetmaker> I'll forget otherwise :-) 12:19:10 <planetmaker> (for the newgrf project) 12:19:19 <Ammler> I also would then trash my REV file 12:19:39 <Ammler> hmm 12:20:22 <Ammler> I fear, my plan isn't compatible with was for example :-( 12:20:31 <planetmaker> why? 12:20:43 <Ammler> was doesn't provide such a file 12:20:52 <planetmaker> ask them to do so 12:20:52 <Ammler> also no md5 file 12:22:18 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:22:43 <Ammler> is there a tool wich has automatically md5sum check after download? 12:23:01 <Ammler> just wonder about the use of zip.md5 file 12:23:40 <Ammler> oh well, such things are added fast... 12:27:03 <Ammler> planetmaker: also who should create the commit changelog file? 12:27:18 <Ammler> does it make sense to let you (Makefile) doing that? 12:36:18 <planetmaker> Ammler, I don't think. The changelog required for a release needs always manual editing 12:36:33 <planetmaker> I see no proper way to automatically decide upon the relevant commits 12:37:19 <planetmaker> I usually do something like hg log -r<oldrev>:tip --template='{desc}\n' > file and then hand edit that 12:38:38 <planetmaker> I also don't consider creation of the changelog a major thing. 12:38:53 <planetmaker> It's a one-time task every few months, once per release 12:39:25 <planetmaker> s/thing/work load/ 12:39:53 <andythenorth> I think the changelog should be manual 12:40:01 <andythenorth> although I keep forgetting to edit mine :o 12:42:46 <Ammler> well, that wasn't my question 12:43:10 <Ammler> I "need" a commit changelog, the question is who does it :-) 12:43:59 <Ammler> (it isn't about the changelog file you include to the bundle) 12:44:30 <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/firs-nightly-r757.log <-- example 12:45:57 <Ammler> but I see, it might confuse, if the Makefile does generate 2 different changelog files 12:53:15 <planetmaker> Ammler, I don't think it's needed 12:53:42 <planetmaker> anyone can read the commit log. 12:56:25 <Ammler> also true :-) 12:59:01 <planetmaker> I dunno: does OpenTTD have a changelog from one nightly to the next? If so, it's not something I ever used. 12:59:24 <planetmaker> I rather then look at the repo itself. 13:00:08 <Ammler> yes, openttd does have it 13:00:14 <Ammler> also for releases 13:01:57 <planetmaker> well. for releases 13:02:16 <planetmaker> but the latter are IIRC hand-made, too 13:02:21 <Ammler> no 13:02:23 <Ammler> hmm 13:02:42 <Ammler> yes, they are 13:05:08 <planetmaker> I asked ;-) 13:05:36 <planetmaker> for nightlies: dunno. But then... 13:06:26 <Ammler> hmm, btw. the question once arised, why don't we add revs and ticket numbers to the changelog? 13:07:28 <Rubidium> planetmaker: with hand made you mean changelog.txt, right? Because the changelog on the download page is always automatically generated (either from the repository's logs or a cut from changelog.txt) 13:07:46 <planetmaker> Rubidium, yes, I meant changelog.txt as it comes with releases 13:08:02 <planetmaker> the daily ones I wouldn't assume hand-made. Too much hassle for litte gain 13:08:15 <Rubidium> those just take the revision log of the last week 13:22:43 <planetmaker> Ammler, I don't think that the revs need referencing in the changelog 13:23:03 <planetmaker> Reference to ticket numbers might make sense... but in case of doubt I decided against. 13:25:11 <Rubidium> as long as you don't do backports the revisions are not useful, but once you start using them... they become useful very quickly as it makes "did I backport that" question so much easier to answer (because I quite ofter rewrite the commit message for the changelog) 13:26:38 <planetmaker> Rubidium, in the changelog? In the commit message I see the use 13:27:44 <Rubidium> planetmaker: the changelog is in the same format as the (backport) commit messages 13:36:46 <Ammler> he, a nice thing to write changelog, indeed :-) 13:44:52 <Rubidium> svn log -> prospective backport list -> backport commit -> changelog.txt 13:45:30 <Rubidium> major feature release changelogs aren't that much fun though :( 13:46:31 <Rubidium> going through ~2500 commits... 13:55:41 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:56:03 *** welshdragon has left #openttdcoop.devzone 14:08:37 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 14:12:56 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:37:44 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:53:43 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:19:58 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:34:30 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 15:34:45 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:00:53 <Ammler> planetmaker: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Dz 16:01:43 <planetmaker> nice 16:02:15 <planetmaker> bundle-headers.html in the main dir of the repo? 16:02:15 <Ammler> so we can move out the crap from repo root 16:02:23 <Ammler> no, in .dz 16:02:35 <planetmaker> I mean... are they part of the repo? 16:02:38 <Ammler> yes 16:02:59 <planetmaker> and why in .dz, I mean a hidden dir? 16:03:31 <Ammler> how would you call it? 16:03:43 <planetmaker> devzone :-) 16:04:06 <Ammler> it is also meant as excluded for bundle_src 16:04:39 <planetmaker> well, it will be by default 16:04:44 <planetmaker> unless you add it. 16:04:59 <Ammler> I would recommend to change that :-) 16:05:05 <planetmaker> what? 16:05:13 <planetmaker> exclusion / inclusion defaults? 16:05:18 <Ammler> yes 16:05:28 <planetmaker> sensibly it should be reversed, yes 16:05:30 <Ammler> include everything per default 16:05:37 <Ammler> and make exlcudes configurable 16:05:52 <planetmaker> now it's vice versa. Should be feasable, yes 16:05:56 <Ammler> start with .* :-) 16:06:06 <Ammler> then .dz would be in 16:06:14 <Ammler> as .hg 16:06:33 <Ammler> or the .hgignore and .hgtags or whatever 16:07:48 <planetmaker> hm, yes 16:08:14 <planetmaker> well. Call it .devzone :-) 16:08:31 <Ammler> or .dzcfg 16:08:52 <planetmaker> nah. Standard tells us to use the name preceeded by a dot 16:09:10 <Ammler> ? 16:09:13 <planetmaker> .openttd .bashrc .xemacs .x11 16:09:20 <planetmaker> .mozilla 16:09:23 <planetmaker> etc pp :-) 16:09:36 <Ammler> ok 16:12:50 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Example NewGRF Project - Feature #876 (Assigned): bundle_src: include by default and make exclude... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/876> 16:18:04 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: 2cctrainset (r493), 32bpp-extra (r31), airportsplus (r42), bros (r10), comic-houses (r69), firs (r757), fish (r256), heqs (r308), nmts (r15), nutracks (r55), opengfx (r407), openmsx (r48), opensfx (r86), snowlinemod (r9), worldairlineset (r636) 16:28:31 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 2cc train set - Bug #877 (Confirmed): Dependency check faulty <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/877> 16:37:56 <planetmaker> ah, nice summary message, Ammler :-) 16:42:29 <Ammler> the wiki syntax of the devzone is stupid... 16:49:36 <planetmaker> yes 17:15:16 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Example NewGRF Project - Revision 83: Fix: Also ignore removed files for dep checks <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/83> || 2cc train set - Revision 495: Fix: [Makefile] Also ignore removed files for dep checks <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/495> || 2cc train set - Revision 494: Change: Don't use the same filename for different things. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/494> || Client Patch Pack - Revision 752: Add color_town_rating to client_patches <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/clientpatches/repository/revisions/752> || Client Patch Pack - Revision 751: Cleanup: unversion filenames <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/clientpatches/repository/revisions/751> 17:46:01 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Climate dependant airports - Revision 43: Change: [Makefile] Update to r83 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/airportsplus/repository/revisions/43> || FISH - Revision 257: Change: [Makefile] Update to r83 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/257> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 758: Change: [Makefile] Update to r83 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/758> || 2cc train set - Revision 496: Change: [Makefile] Update to r83 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/496> 18:16:33 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 18:33:37 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 2cc train set - Bug #877 (Feedback): Dependency check faulty <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/877#change-2378" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/877#change-2378> || Nutracks - Revision 58: Merge: Makefile changes with nfo changes <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/58> || Nutracks - Revision 57: Change: [Makefile] Update to r83 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/57> || HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 309: Change: [Makefile] Update to r83 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/309> || Climate dependant airports - Revision 43: Change: [Makefile] Update to r83 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/airportsplus/repository/revisions/43> || FISH - Revision 257: Change: [Makefile] Update to r83 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/257> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 758: Change: [Makefile] Update to r83 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/758> || 2cc train set - Revision 496: Change: [Makefile] Update to r83 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/496> || Example NewGRF Project - Revision 83: Fix: Also ignore removed files for dep checks <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/83> || 2cc train set - Revision 495: Fix: [Makefile] Also ignore removed files for dep checks <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/495> || 2cc train set - Revision 494: Change: Don't use the same filename for different things. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/494> || 2cc train set - Bug #877 (Feedback): Dependency check faulty <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/877> || Example NewGRF Project - Feature #876 (Assigned): bundle_src: include by default and make exclude... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/876> || 32bpp-EZ - Support #874: Create repository <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/874#change-2377> || Client Patch Pack - Revision 752: Add color_town_rating to client_patches <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/clientpatches/repository/revisions/752> 19:04:54 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:09:03 *** PeterT has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** Rubidium has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 19:26:34 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 19:26:36 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:26:36 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:26:54 *** Rubidium has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:38:16 *** PeterT_ is now known as PeterT 19:55:14 <planetmaker> DJ_Nekkid: if you need train wagons: the US Set is licensed GPL and has a lot of nice ones :-) 19:56:41 <PeterT> Ammler: how goes the devzone -> irc bridge? 19:57:16 <planetmaker> PeterT: bad thing is its memory consumption. It killed the server 19:57:33 <PeterT> which server? 19:57:38 <planetmaker> devzone? 19:57:46 <PeterT> ah 19:58:08 <PeterT> well, I assumed that the public and dev server are both run in the same place 19:58:25 <Ammler> planetmaker: it didn't, it was just one part of it :-) 19:58:44 <Ammler> 60MB of 2GB isn't that much :-P 19:58:48 <planetmaker> Ammler: well :-) 19:59:20 <KenjiE20> 60M is pretty hefty just for an irc bot tbh 19:59:26 <Ammler> yes 20:00:08 <Rubidium> nah, 60M for an irc bot is todays "norm" 20:00:15 <KenjiE20> O.o 20:25:22 <Paul2> 60m? wow... 20:28:37 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:43:36 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 21:25:10 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 21:36:15 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:41:18 <DJ_Nekkid> planetmaker: thanx! cool! I'll ask/notify the author(s) :) 21:55:15 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:55:22 *** PeterT__ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:57:22 <Ammler> why should you add waggons from an other set? 21:57:46 *** PeterT__ has quit IRC 21:57:47 <Ammler> just use it together 22:09:40 *** planetmaker has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:56:41 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Snowline mod - Revision 10: Change: [Makefile] Update to Makefile r83 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/snowlinemod/repository/revisions/10> 23:01:51 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:08:53 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest727 23:09:01 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:11:12 *** Guest727 has quit IRC 23:13:37 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest728 23:13:44 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:17:17 *** Guest728 has quit IRC