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00:06:09 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 4:359eccf2779b: Change #1528: Consider many more cargos for the bulk w... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/359eccf2779b 00:25:27 *** thgergo has quit IRC 01:04:24 *** Yexo_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:09:36 *** Yexo__ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:09:46 *** Yexo has quit IRC 01:16:53 *** Yexo_ has quit IRC 04:36:20 <Brot6> Bundles Update: g3f19418e 2010-09-22 cargodist (http://finger.openttdcoop.org) 06:54:08 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:08:42 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 5:c793c14c3dfd: Add #1528: Basic refit capability for piece goods and ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/c793c14c3dfd 08:27:56 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trees - Feature Request #1530 (New): Swap two trees for better look with FIRS (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1530 09:13:43 <Ammler> I setup cleanup for keeping 3 releases or 33 days for the CF bundles... 09:14:25 <Ammler> cargodist: rm -rf g875fc135 g714743faM-cargodist g5b3732ce g3c5595c9 g9e7e0a6b (dry-run) 09:14:28 <Rubidium> you might want to consider keeping one source tarball 09:15:01 <Ammler> hmm 09:15:26 <Rubidium> (or at least 3 years + 33 days) 09:15:58 <Ammler> I could clone the cargodist repo 09:18:44 <Ammler> are we responsible to provide teh source, can't we just forward such requests to fronsinchen? 09:19:11 <Rubidium> you're distributing it :) 09:20:16 <Rubidium> although you're distributing it alongside the binary 09:20:34 <Rubidium> so the 3 year stuff doesn't count 09:20:37 <Ammler> yes, but I need to keep the source longer 09:20:53 <Ammler> as someone could download teh bin and then think, I would like the source 09:22:51 <Rubidium> the openttd nightlies retain the sources from very long ago :) 09:23:06 <Rubidium> although for the other compiles that doesn't quite happen though 09:23:11 <Ammler> I know :-) 09:37:12 <Ammler> git branches are just bookmarks? 09:37:22 <Ammler> and how does a branch look? 09:38:23 <Rubidium> you can see the branches as the individual patches of a patch pack 09:39:01 <Ammler> like the MQ 10:21:36 <andythenorth> morning 10:21:40 <andythenorth> no work for me today 10:21:44 <andythenorth> childcare :) 10:22:14 <andythenorth> going to do some more fricking FIRS :P 10:27:08 <planetmaker> :-) 10:27:30 <andythenorth> not bored of FIRS, but currently not fun :P 10:27:36 <andythenorth> just a big pile of work :o 10:27:54 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 6:a15af3dd5990: Add #1528: Separate graphics for bulk wagon transporti... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/a15af3dd5990 10:33:43 <Brot6> Autopilot - Feature #1531 (New): Add example script... (kamil) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1531 10:33:43 <Brot6> Autopilot - Feature #1531: Add example script... (kamil) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1531#change-4010 10:40:49 <Brot6> Autopilot - Feature #1531: Add example script... (kamil) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1531#change-4010 10:58:00 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 7:5aa4cb539bb3: Add #1528: Separate graphics for tank wagon transporti... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/5aa4cb539bb3 10:58:42 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:10:58 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 795:782588d42903: Add: Allow to use also 'CLIMATE_TROPIC' instead... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/782588d42903 11:11:34 <planetmaker> andythenorth, maybe just get back to the drawing board :-) 11:11:44 <planetmaker> literally. Not conceptually :-) 11:12:23 <planetmaker> Filling those boxes ;-) 11:30:09 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1532 (New): Review 'cargo_type' property (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1532 11:35:23 <andythenorth> planetmaker: that's what I'm doing :) 11:37:04 <planetmaker> nice :-) 11:37:20 <planetmaker> I'm hoping for a box-free version in 0.5 :-) 11:37:25 <planetmaker> for Christmas :-P 11:39:17 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/entry/src/wagons.pnml#L47 <-- if FIRS code were only that easy to understand ;-) 11:39:37 <Rubidium> aren't all version box-free? Or are you going to sell real boxes with apps? 11:40:12 <andythenorth> planetmaker: FIRS code is that easy to understand :| 11:40:16 <andythenorth> in fact, it's even easier 11:40:17 <andythenorth> for me :P 11:40:18 <Rubidium> or are you talking about some other boxes? 11:41:06 <Ammler> planetmaker: taps indents :-P 11:41:18 <planetmaker> hm, yes 11:41:33 <andythenorth> don't have a python 2 space 4 space tab indent war :P 11:42:01 <Ammler> 2 or 4 doesn't matter, but tabs is ugly 11:42:35 <Ammler> is that a browser setting? 11:43:51 <planetmaker> I need editors which adjust the tab setting automatically, depending upon the file type :S 11:44:37 <planetmaker> tabs in Makefiles are required. Tabs in OpenTTD source in the line beginning: required; tabs in python source in the line beginning: a no-no. Tabs in NML-source: also not desired... 11:44:39 <planetmaker> that sucks 11:46:05 <Ammler> geany should, but I am not sure 11:46:53 <Ammler> well, maybe just my browser setting fails 11:47:24 <Ammler> it has 8 spaces per tab 11:48:40 <planetmaker> I aligned for 4 spaces per tab 11:50:23 <Ammler> well, how does the code from redmine look in your browser? 11:52:05 <planetmaker> the properties look ugly 11:52:19 <planetmaker> and I shouldn't have used tab there 11:52:52 <Ammler> how many spaces does your browser use per tab? 11:53:01 <planetmaker> 8 11:53:09 <Ammler> frome where is that setting? 11:53:54 <Rubidium> oh, an cargodist hg clone? 11:54:14 <planetmaker> No idea, Ammler 11:54:38 <Ammler> Rubidium: it run around an hour :-) 11:54:41 <Rubidium> its hg revision's almost higher than the svn rev (and I'm kinda missing the branches) 11:54:47 <Ammler> I now wonder, if the hashes are the same 11:55:02 <Ammler> git has no branches afaik 11:55:03 <Rubidium> than the git ones? They'll most likely be 11:55:11 <Ammler> only kind of bookmarks 11:56:17 <Ammler> it is still running btw... 11:57:45 <Ammler> I wonder, why not converting the branches to tags 11:58:21 *** ODM has quit IRC 11:58:32 <Ammler> maybe I should rather try hg convert 11:58:43 <Rubidium> Ammler: then you'd have at least 4000 tags by now 11:59:18 <Ammler> as I won't push to the git repo 12:01:18 <Brot6> Autopilot - Feature #1531: Add example script... (kamil) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1531#change-4011 12:30:09 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:39:43 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1383:30b8b4691bac: Add: psd file for Builders Yard (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/30b8b4691bac 12:39:44 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1384:b5d46d766be3: Add: pcx file for Builders Yard (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b5d46d766be3 12:39:44 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1385:6723cb5b5361: Change: rename builders yard pcx to f... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6723cb5b5361 12:39:47 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1386:6901ae68d8d2: Feature: graphics for Builders Yard (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6901ae68d8d2 12:49:33 <planetmaker> \o/ @ builder's yard :-) 12:49:52 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1387:d432aed2c3cb: Change: use company colour for Builde... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/d432aed2c3cb 12:49:52 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1388:76959bc57eb4: Change: allow Builders Yard to locate... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/76959bc57eb4 12:50:10 <andythenorth> planetmaker: it just uses ISR sprites :P 12:50:12 <andythenorth> nothing clever 12:50:18 <andythenorth> one less box though 12:51:11 <planetmaker> 'clever' is relative. And yes :-) 12:51:32 <planetmaker> btw... a feature request for FIRS is definitely time-dependent graphics. 12:51:38 <andythenorth> I know :| 12:51:55 <andythenorth> I think I'll try and get 'graphic' done first :P 12:52:03 <planetmaker> A machine shop in 1920 which features the 100t truck... looks funny when I just moved away from the horse carriage to the 12km/h coal truck ;-) 12:52:17 <planetmaker> yes, definitely :-) 12:53:01 <planetmaker> It's just what I noticed when I recently played a FIRS game 12:53:56 <planetmaker> just curious: how long do you need for something like the builder's yard? 13:03:11 <andythenorth> planetmaker: to draw? 13:06:26 <andythenorth> for the builders yard, maybe 25 mins 13:06:44 <andythenorth> it's just make some new files, rip stuff from ISR, assemble a psd, then flatten to pcx 13:06:47 <andythenorth> and enconde 13:06:51 <andythenorth> encode /s 13:27:28 <planetmaker> yes, I meant drawing 13:27:31 <planetmaker> :-) 13:27:58 <andythenorth> for something like sand pit, maybe 2-3 days in total, probably at least 30 hours anyway 14:32:12 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1529: sprite sets mix-up (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1529#change-4012 14:48:45 <Ammler> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/cargodist.git/tags <-- hg does show the git branches/bookmarks as tags 14:51:00 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1389:790b3e3c8883: Feature (unfeature): hidden Windmill,... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/790b3e3c8883 14:53:05 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1390:2a0a66c94255: Fix: Bakery wasn't using code to prev... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/2a0a66c94255 14:53:05 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1391:ff3ef85b71cf: Change: commented bakery file a littl... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ff3ef85b71cf 14:59:50 <planetmaker> psst, andythenorth even if something is under GPL you need to give credit ;-) 15:00:00 <andythenorth> I know 15:00:13 <andythenorth> but I'm not sure if the information is available for ISR artists :P 15:00:21 <planetmaker> I guess if it's unclear who drew something 'from ISR' will suffice, though 15:00:46 <andythenorth> well that's already covered AFAIK :) 15:00:57 <planetmaker> yep 15:12:10 <Ammler> Rubidium: git seems so slow, because github is slow 15:12:15 <Ammler> I got only 500kb 15:12:34 <Rubidium> oh, I got 4 MiB/s last night 15:12:38 <Ammler> hmm 15:15:59 <Ammler> mäh, I liked to shutdown a vm but shutdown the whole server 15:16:10 <Ammler> now wol doesn't work 15:16:22 <Ammler> the gui is dangerous :-) 15:16:26 <planetmaker> lol? 15:16:48 <Ammler> wake-on-lan 15:32:15 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:36:18 <Ammler> Rubidium: catcodec to grfcodec package? :-) 15:36:56 <Ammler> nothing in, you could reuse? 15:39:14 <Rubidium> besides a tiny part of the makefile? 15:39:35 <Rubidium> in that case we'd better put grfcodec, catcodec and nforenum into OpenTTD 15:40:12 <Ammler> also a good idea 15:40:28 <Ammler> someone could then make subpackages from OpenTTD, main, data, devel 15:41:36 <Rubidium> nah, that'll give a huge mess with version numbers 15:41:48 <Ammler> I thought about submitting grfcodec to the suse game repo, but then we still have catcodec missing 15:42:13 <Rubidium> and catcodec has absolutely zero to do with grfs or that whole chain grf/nfo related apps 15:43:06 <Ammler> well, sample.cat is mostly "distributed" with the trg?r.grfs 15:43:46 <Rubidium> opensfx.cat isn't... 15:44:02 <Rubidium> for sample.cat there's not much use 15:44:18 <Rubidium> as it can't create something ttdp compatible 15:44:35 <Ammler> but it might be a good idea, to make that openttd-devel package 15:46:43 <Ammler> ah, stupid 15:46:52 <Ammler> I culd add catcodec to opensfx 15:59:46 <Ammler> ok, I will repackage everything like it is on debian/fedora 16:00:20 <Ammler> catcodec, grfcodec, openttd, openttd-opensfx, openttd-opengfx, openttd-openmsx 16:00:23 <Ammler> do I miss one? 16:00:47 <Ammler> maybe openttd -> openttd and openttd-data 16:04:39 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1533 (New): Rename Meat Packer to Stockyard (or Stockyar... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1533 16:12:06 <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r766 to r768 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfcodec/nightlies/r768 16:14:32 <Brot6> nml: update from r794 to r795 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r795 16:20:31 <Hirundo> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=VehicleRefitting <- argh :o 16:20:56 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r614 to r615 done (7 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/r615 16:22:31 <Brot6> firs: update from r1382 to r1391 done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1391 16:22:47 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1534 (New): Consider Renaming Brewery to Distillery.... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1534 16:23:11 <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: update from r216 to r217 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/nightlies/r217 16:23:37 * planetmaker hugs Hirundo 16:23:43 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r68), airportsplus (r63), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r7), comic-houses (r71), fish (r394), frenchtowns (r4), grfcodec (r768), heqs (r376), metrotrackset (r56), nforenum (r506), nml (r795), nutracks (r117), ogfx-test (r529), ogfx-trees (r26), ogfxplus (r42), opengfx (r546), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), snowlinemod (r45), swedishrails (r182), swisstowns 16:23:43 <Brot6> (r19), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r25), ttrs (r22), worldairlinersset (r664) 16:25:19 <planetmaker> Hirundo, I presume, you just looked at the cargo_type issue? 16:25:31 <Hirundo> yes 16:26:11 <planetmaker> any idea already? an NML-internal translation table which may or may not work with certain industry sets? 16:26:22 <planetmaker> Or just... numbers? 16:26:33 <planetmaker> and that table in the documentation? 16:26:46 <planetmaker> I see no other way really 16:27:39 <Brot6> belarusiantowns: rebuild of r7 done (3 errors) (Diffsize: 21) (DiffDiffsize: 18) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/belarusiantowns/nightlies/r7/log 16:28:17 <Hirundo> It again tells me that we should increase the level of abstraction to provide a good user experience 16:28:31 <planetmaker> :-) 16:28:48 <Hirundo> That is not feasible in 0.1.0, though, so we'll have to work with what we have 16:29:05 <planetmaker> That it does. The question is how that can be abstracted in such a way that the needed options are not limited? 16:29:12 <planetmaker> I concur 16:30:04 <Hirundo> Basically, implement functions as per #1007 16:30:04 <Brot6> Hirundo: Basically: #1007 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1007 "NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #1007: Varaction2 abstraction - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 16:30:22 <Hirundo> Then, the user can define a certain function to be e.g. the 'capacity callback' 16:30:45 <Brot6> frenchtowns: rebuild of r4 done (4 errors) (Diffsize: 9) (DiffDiffsize: 9) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/frenchtowns/nightlies/r4/log 16:30:46 <Hirundo> All the corner cases w.r.t. CB 36/15 are then for NML to handle 16:31:18 <Hirundo> since the function has a clear entry/exit point, we can catch that to e.g. work around the capacity multipliers 16:31:51 <planetmaker> yes. 16:32:14 <planetmaker> your first sentence there is quite accurate, still, though ;-) 16:33:12 <Hirundo> sentence being 'argh :o' ? 16:33:31 <planetmaker> "In case all the serious issues are fixed and unemployment becomes an issue..." 16:36:44 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:39:13 <Brot6> ogfxplus: rebuild of r42 done (Diffsize: 6) (DiffDiffsize: 9) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfxplus/nightlies/r42/log 16:42:59 <Ammler> explaination, why md5sum changed? 16:43:16 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1532: Review 'cargo_type' property (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1532#change-4013 16:43:27 <Ammler> needs to be something in the graaphics 16:45:11 <Ammler> hmm 16:47:48 <planetmaker> hm. in ogfxplus? 16:49:21 <Ammler> yes 16:49:37 <Ammler> the nml is the same, just the grf isn't 16:50:33 <planetmaker> which newgrf, Ammler ? 16:50:35 <Ammler> ah, solved 16:50:49 <Ammler> it is because of the .release file 16:51:55 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: 32bpp-extra, airportsplus, basecosts, comic-houses (3 errors) (Diffsize: 13), fish (4 errors), heqs, metrotrackset (Diffsize: 1), nutracks (2 errors), ogfx-test, ogfx-trees (3 errors), opengfx (Diffsize: 1), snowlinemod, swedishrails, swisstowns, transrapidtrackset (Diffsize: 12), ttrs (7 errors), worldairlinersset 16:53:59 <Hirundo> hmmm... what train set should I use with FIRS in single player 16:54:31 <Ammler> a ECS compatible one, NARS/UKRS/2cc 16:54:48 <andythenorth> yup 16:55:07 <planetmaker> you played the FIRS game on stable ;-) 16:55:12 <planetmaker> you know what works :-) 16:55:12 <Hirundo> :) indeed 16:55:17 <planetmaker> Japanese should work, too 16:55:29 <Ammler> planetmaker: are you sure? 16:55:42 <Ammler> maybe codewise 16:55:43 <planetmaker> not 100%, but I think so 16:55:53 <andythenorth> canset is partial, US set is partial 16:56:09 <Ammler> well, almost every grf works with it 16:56:30 <Ammler> but only NARS has also different cargo graphics, right? 16:56:46 <Ammler> NARS2* 16:57:22 <planetmaker> possibly 16:57:38 <Hirundo> How usable is UKRS2 0.6? 16:58:25 <Ammler> well, and you should know how newgrfs works, so using all at once is a option for you too :-P 17:01:43 <planetmaker> Hirundo, I read that it has support early on and lacks in the later years (or vice versa) - I don't recall exactly 17:08:56 <andythenorth> it's increasingly finished :) 17:29:42 <V453000> NARS2 fits best for FIRS imo :) due to the custom coloured hoppers and such :) but it is also nice to have multiple sets to get a special wagon for every cargo ^_^ 17:41:44 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:43:44 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1535 (New): Change Cotton to Natural Fibres (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1535 17:45:25 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1536 (New): Have Plastic Plant accept Natural Fibre (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1536 18:03:42 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1535: Change Cotton to Natural Fibres (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1535#change-4014 18:10:13 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r20834 to r20836 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/r20836 18:16:04 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1537 (New): Change Arable Farm production to Grain, Natu... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1537 18:26:03 <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r20834 to r20836 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r20836 18:37:24 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1536 (New): Have Plastic Plant accept Plant Fibres (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1536 18:38:59 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1535 (New): Change Cotton to Plant Fibres (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1535 18:38:59 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1535: Change Cotton to Plant Fibres (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1535#change-4014 18:38:59 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1537 (New): Change Mixed Farm production to Livetock, Pl... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1537 18:41:59 <andythenorth> #1462 18:41:59 <Brot6> andythenorth: #1462 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1462 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1462: No more changes to cargo chains until economies are implemented - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 18:42:19 <andythenorth> ^ rejected :P 18:42:36 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1462 (Rejected): No more changes to cargo chains until e... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1462#change-4018 18:42:37 <Alberth> I was thinking 'failed to reproduce' :) 18:42:44 <Brot6> serverpatches: update from h73c3f4b6 to h575f8c4d done (2 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/h575f8c4d 18:43:39 <Alberth> do you have an idea what kind of information you'd want to have about industry behaviour? 18:43:43 *** thgergo has quit IRC 18:45:07 <Hirundo> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4136 <- I was so thrilled to use FIRS with the industry chain window, but it doesn't work :( 18:45:57 <planetmaker> what fails in your screenshot linked, Hirundo ? 18:46:13 <planetmaker> and you should learn to use ctrl+S ;-) 18:46:41 <Hirundo> smallmap shows e.g. bauxite/coal mine 18:47:02 <Hirundo> instead of cement plant, lumber yard 18:47:15 <Ammler> screenshot feature should make the screen with the menu closed 18:47:18 <planetmaker> oh, that should be automatically selected? 18:48:09 <Alberth> planetmaker: yes, with the button at the bottom left of the industry view 18:48:15 <planetmaker> :-) ok 18:48:20 <planetmaker> I guess I never tried that 18:48:44 <Alberth> It was quite silently introduced :) 18:48:52 <Hirundo> I guess no-one tried hard enough yet 18:49:32 <Terkhen> hmmm... I'm checking in my current game (toyland) and this also happens with some chains 18:50:03 <Terkhen> toy factory or sweet factory will also reproduce this 18:50:09 <Alberth> hmm, 3*14 > 32 18:50:14 <planetmaker> andythenorth, when modifying chains now, definitely #1463 and #1435 should be done at a similar time and before 0.5 18:50:14 <Brot6> planetmaker: andythenorth: #1463 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1463 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1463: Consider merging Bakery and Windmill to Grain Mill - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 18:50:15 <Brot6> planetmaker: andythenorth: #1435 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1435 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1435: Consider merging some town industries - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 18:52:21 <Alberth> uint64 _displayed_industries; <-- that should fit 18:53:13 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:54:47 * Alberth blames SetBit(): return x = (T)(x | (T)(1U << y)); 18:54:50 <Hirundo> Ah I see the bug, methinks 18:55:08 <andythenorth> planetmaker: 1463 and 1435 are blocked by http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4131 18:56:07 <Brot6> repository /home/ottdc/hg-repos/isr registered in Redmine with url /home/ottdc/hg-repos/isr 18:56:07 <Brot6> repository /home/ottdc/hg-repos/isr created 18:56:49 <Alberth> ha, an Interrupt Service Routine, how nice 18:57:44 <Hirundo> Ah, I did not see the bug, methinks after better thinking 19:04:23 <planetmaker> ISR sources anyone? :-) 19:04:43 * andythenorth thinks of forking ISR 19:05:04 <andythenorth> FISS 19:05:23 <Terkhen> you still need more things to do? :) 19:05:27 <andythenorth> nope 19:05:31 <Brot6> Industrial Stations Renewal - Revision 0:3de9675b5845: Add: Import of ISR 0.8.0 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/isr/repository/revisions/3de9675b5845 19:05:45 <andythenorth> but I don't much like ISR ground tiles :| 19:05:45 <planetmaker> ^ 19:06:39 <andythenorth> :) 19:11:45 <Terkhen> andythenorth: HEQS removes the MPS Regal bus 19:11:59 <andythenorth> :o 19:12:49 <V453000> coal bus? :p 19:13:43 <planetmaker> Hirundo, if you're actually still looking for a FIRS vehicle set: you could try to just use OpenGFX+Trains nightly ;-) 19:14:10 <planetmaker> I *think* that the wagons provide every cargo... 19:14:13 <planetmaker> hm... maybe 19:14:13 <Terkhen> also, I wouldn't call the Gmund Mog "heavy equipment", but it looks fun and useful for supplies 19:14:46 <Terkhen> I'll test that in my next game 19:14:59 <Ammler> planetmaker: is that with muxi? 19:15:09 <Ammler> puxi or however that guys is called again 19:15:25 <planetmaker> hm? 19:15:34 <Ammler> the isr 0.8 dev 19:15:40 <planetmaker> mart3p 19:15:54 <Ammler> oh, indeed 19:16:30 <planetmaker> I won't touch the set though. I just uploaded it (with consent) 19:16:33 <Ammler> hmm, seems you got source 19:16:54 <andythenorth> Terkhen: mog http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/UNIMOG_excavator.JPEG 19:16:56 <planetmaker> andy asked, forwarded to me. I asked permission to publish, got it. uploaded it 19:17:11 <planetmaker> the original is a git repository 19:17:17 <planetmaker> But I don't have the history 19:17:20 <Ammler> planetmaker: you know, you can use -u for commit :-) 19:17:22 <planetmaker> just the bundle 19:17:38 <planetmaker> yes ;-) 19:18:52 <Ammler> he lost the repo? another reason to upload it :-) 19:19:18 <planetmaker> I don't think he lost it 19:20:27 <Ammler> you should be able to simply zip the .git like the .hg to transfer a repo, not necessary a server needed 19:20:39 <Terkhen> andythenorth: I see :) 19:20:53 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1538 (New): r615 new engines missing or wrong (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1538 19:21:28 <andythenorth> Terkhen: there are other kinds :) 19:21:48 <planetmaker> he. That version definitely doesn't show a SUV version ;-) 19:21:55 <planetmaker> s/version/image/ 19:34:09 <Alberth> Terkhen: Hirundo: does this solve the problem? http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/diffs/fs4136_smallmap_link.patch 19:36:58 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1392:97e9010fc746: Change: define for cotton now plant f... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/97e9010fc746 19:36:58 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1393:fd2e02cf25a7: Change: mixed farm now produces plant... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/fd2e02cf25a7 19:36:58 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1394:c0dd3d30b918: Feature: convert cotton cargo to plan... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c0dd3d30b918 19:37:00 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1395:5dd73e9f27e1: Feature: textile mill accepts plant f... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/5dd73e9f27e1 19:40:22 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1396:5345dd253183: Feature: add Plant Fibres production ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/5345dd253183 19:41:13 <Terkhen> Alberth: it works for me (sweet factory) 19:41:51 <Terkhen> nice patch, I would never find that :) 19:42:26 <Alberth> ok, I am still pondering about the U in the constants. They do not seem to make much sense, but other entries also have it 19:42:51 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1397:1f4cc6ab5092: Fix: production ratio was wrong for P... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/1f4cc6ab5092 19:44:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1536 (Closed): Have Plastic Plant accept Plant Fibres (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1536 19:44:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1537 (Closed): Change Mixed Farm production to Livetock,... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1537 19:44:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1537 (Closed): Change Mixed Farm production to Livetock,... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1537#change-4019 19:44:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1536 (Closed): Have Plastic Plant accept Plant Fibres (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1536#change-4020 19:44:21 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1535 (Closed): Change Cotton to Plant Fibres (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1535#change-4021 19:44:56 <Alberth> Terkhen: the general mechanism works, about the only difference is the number of industries. Knowing that _displayed_industries is a bitmask, leads to SetBit() :) 19:47:57 <andythenorth> brrr 19:48:02 <andythenorth> I should edit the TTDP wiki 19:48:06 <Terkhen> I see :) 19:48:06 <andythenorth> I loathe doing that 19:50:15 <andythenorth> who invented wiki formatting? And in what ways is it supposed to improve on html, which I can read and write in my sleep? 19:50:16 <andythenorth> :P 19:50:43 <andythenorth> {DIV(bg=>#1a3cb7)}::~hs~((FIRS|~~#FFFFFF:FIRS~~))~hs~::{DIV} 19:50:51 <andythenorth> is impenetrable 19:51:27 <andythenorth> <td style="background-color:blue; color: white;"><strong>FIRS</strong></td> would do 19:51:38 <andythenorth> oh I missed the href :P 19:52:17 <Rubidium> ttdp wiki is obnoxiously complex 19:52:31 <Rubidium> and actually the ttdp wiki is annoying in any case 19:52:44 <andythenorth> planetmaker: I feel dirty using FICR :P 19:52:50 <andythenorth> it's one ECS cargo I never understood 19:52:53 <andythenorth> until today :P 19:53:16 <andythenorth> FIRS gets ever close to being just ECS without illegal graphics :P 19:56:03 <planetmaker> lol 19:56:28 * andythenorth ponders what next 19:56:37 <andythenorth> planetmaker: plastic plant does look better with two inputs 19:57:12 <andythenorth> maybe I should bang my brain on this again: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4131 19:57:33 <Hirundo> Alberth: I can't test right now, but if it fixes the bug for Terkhn (highlight avoided) it should be fine 19:58:33 <planetmaker> :-) 19:59:00 <planetmaker> andythenorth, if you feel still dirty in a month about the crops I'll send you a piece of soap ;-) 19:59:11 <planetmaker> *fibre crops 19:59:18 <andythenorth> for that you'd need some other crop 19:59:26 <andythenorth> soda ash or some such 19:59:30 <planetmaker> hehe 19:59:37 <andythenorth> soda ash is just chemicals :) 19:59:48 <andythenorth> planetmaker: how is your c++ 19:59:48 <andythenorth> ? 20:00:44 <planetmaker> never did it for a living 20:01:02 <andythenorth> me neither :P 20:04:38 * andythenorth has an idea 20:06:41 <Alberth> Hirundo: how did you get FIRS0.6 ? bananas and http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/ do not go further than 0.4 20:07:06 <planetmaker> Alberth, he said UKRS2 ;-) 20:07:08 <andythenorth> he's branched it and is several versions ahead of me :D 20:07:09 <Hirundo> I guess, I confused FISH 0.6 with FIRS 0.4 :) 20:07:24 <andythenorth> wait till I do FISS, then we'll all be confused 20:07:42 <andythenorth> FIRS Industrial Stations Set 20:07:48 <andythenorth> nested recursive acronyms :P 20:08:10 <Hirundo> Fish Is SHips? 20:08:11 <Alberth> you need CHIPS instead 20:08:17 <andythenorth> hey, maybe I could do it all in one GRF? 20:08:35 <andythenorth> FISH is Ships indeed :) 20:08:45 <Hirundo> Nah, just make all grfs dependent on each other, and let them refuse to load whenever any other non-canset grf is loaded 20:08:56 <planetmaker> :-P 20:09:04 <planetmaker> you mean non-andy-set? ;-) 20:09:11 <planetmaker> hm... no trains then... 20:09:24 <Hirundo> I always get that wrong :) don't know why I mentioned canset there 20:10:08 <andythenorth> planetmaker: #1435 is probably no longer relevant to FIRS 0.5? I've turned off the excess industries anyway :) 20:10:09 <Brot6> andythenorth: planetmaker: #1435 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1435 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1435: Consider merging some town industries - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 20:11:00 <andythenorth> and I haven't drawn windmill / watermill, so #1463 can be bounced to future 20:11:00 <Brot6> andythenorth: #1463 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1463 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1463: Consider merging Bakery and Windmill to Grain Mill - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 20:24:15 <Alberth> Hirundo: reproduced your issue, and confirmed the fix 20:33:20 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1398:14059aea5646: Feature: Bakery renamed to Grain Mill (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/14059aea5646 20:35:40 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1539 (New): Enforce minimum distance between Grain Mill ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1539 20:42:53 <andythenorth> planetmaker: stockyard :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chicago_stockyards_1901_Sanborn_general_view_combined_downscaled.png 20:42:55 <Webster> Title: File:Chicago stockyards 1901 Sanborn general view combined downscaled.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 20:45:03 <andythenorth> awesome line art drawing 20:47:11 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:48:56 * andythenorth ponders 21:03:53 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1399:b30798762ed3: Feature: rename Meat Packer to Stocky... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b30798762ed3 21:05:22 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1400:d5910d237973: Feature: removed intro date for Brick... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/d5910d237973 21:06:15 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:06:28 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1401:75ac1508bf65: Feature: removed intro date for Build... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/75ac1508bf65 21:11:49 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1402:8de017419e17: Feature: removed intro dates from Lum... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/8de017419e17 21:19:15 <andythenorth> good night 21:20:01 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:24:46 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1533: Rename Meat Packer to Stockyard (or Stockyard and ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1533#change-4024 21:24:46 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1533 (Closed): Rename Meat Packer to Stockyard (or Stock... 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