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11:11:24  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1807 (New): PR_BUILD_VEHICLE_WAGON is broken (AveiMil) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1807
11:49:18  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1807 (Rejected): PR_BUILD_VEHICLE_WAGON is broken (AveiMil) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1807
11:49:18  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1807 (Rejected): PR_BUILD_VEHICLE_WAGON is broken (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1807#change-4604
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12:27:43  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #1805: MLX01 (Maglev) (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1805#change-4605
12:27:43  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #1805: MLX01 (Maglev) (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1805#change-4606
12:30:10  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1808 (New): Problem with PR_BUILD_VEHICLE_WAGON (AveiMil) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1808
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15:03:47  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1808: Problem with PR_BUILD_VEHICLE_WAGON (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1808#change-4607
15:08:32  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1808: Problem with PR_BUILD_VEHICLE_WAGON (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1808#change-4608
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17:22:50  <Brot6> firs: update from r1493 to r1494 done (3 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1494
17:24:05  <Brot6> heqs: update from r497 to r504 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/heqs/nightlies/r504
17:24:44  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r651), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r71), airportsplus (r69), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r7), comic-houses (r71), fish (r415), frenchtowns (r4), grfcodec (r786), indonesiantowns (r38), manindu (r5), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (r232), nml (r1034), nutracks (r117), ogfx-trains (r87), ogfx-trees (r41), opengfx (r554), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19),
17:24:44  <Brot6> snowlinemod (r45), swedishrails (r188), swisstowns (r21), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r23), worldairlinersset (r667)
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19:14:28  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r21134 to r21147 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/r21147
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19:22:10  <andythenorth> efening
19:25:47  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r21134 to r21147 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r21147
19:27:54  <Brot6> serverpatches: update from r21134 to r21147 done (16 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/r21147
19:29:58  <planetmaker> salut andythenorth
19:30:57  <andythenorth> hi
19:31:05  <andythenorth> thinking about FIRS 0.5.3
19:31:11  <andythenorth> with translations?
19:32:37  <planetmaker> Well, I saw you added all(?) translations other than Spanish (Terkhen!) and German ones.
19:32:58  <planetmaker> I checked, they seem to have all unique language codes set
19:33:01  <andythenorth> no, I added tickets for them
19:33:01  <Terkhen> I have not updated the Spanish translation of FIRS in a while
19:33:07  <andythenorth> I don't know how to add translations
19:33:17  <planetmaker> andythenorth: did you check whether they work?
19:33:33  <andythenorth> nope
19:33:36  <andythenorth> don't know how
19:33:37  <andythenorth> :)
19:33:38  <Terkhen> if you are planning a release I'll update the translation once I finish editing the mingw tutorial
19:33:45  <planetmaker> start openttd, change language. done
19:34:06  <planetmaker> well. between change language and done you might check out a few industries :-)
19:34:26  <andythenorth> Terkhen: thanks
19:34:40  <andythenorth> planetmaker: do I literally just commit the language files?
19:34:51  <planetmaker> that's what you did, right?
19:34:56  <planetmaker> And yes
19:35:23  <planetmaker> let me check it out in detail
19:36:30  <andythenorth> I committed nothing so far ;)
19:38:20  <planetmaker> hu? I thought you added Polish,... translations?
19:38:25  <planetmaker> Or were that just tickets?
19:40:02  <andythenorth> just tickets
19:42:56  <planetmaker> are the files attached?
19:43:06  <planetmaker> or linked?
19:43:32  <planetmaker> anyway. I guess I can handle them right now
19:44:14  <andythenorth> planetmaker: they're in the tickets ;)
19:45:02  <planetmaker> thanks :-)
19:46:10  <planetmaker> you have 107 open FIRS tickets :-P
19:46:15  <andythenorth> indeed
19:46:24  <andythenorth> I'm short of collaborators recently :o
19:47:02  <planetmaker> so I can rely on that you added all updates from the thread to the DevZone tickets, yes?
19:47:18  <planetmaker> and that the newest translation file there is what is newest?
19:49:02  <andythenorth> planetmaker: I added all the translations I could see (newest version of each)
19:49:16  <planetmaker> good :-)
19:49:19  <planetmaker> thanks
19:49:45  <planetmaker> consider transations updated somewhen late(r) today. It takes a bit time to see whether it's really ok
19:50:07  <andythenorth> thanks
20:04:31  <planetmaker> nice... assertion failed in nforenum :S
20:06:20  <Brot6> NFORenum - Bug #1809 (New): assertion failed in message.cpp:180 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1809
20:08:18  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1495:6b5c9f1a68b8: Add #1588: Update to the Polish trans... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6b5c9f1a68b8
20:08:18  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Code Review #1588 (Closed): Fixed Polish translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1588#change-4609
20:30:49  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1496:a549522346a7: Add #1774: Czech translation (KouDy) (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a549522346a7
20:32:26  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1774 (Closed): Add Czech translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1774#change-4610
20:39:04  <Rubidium> interesting assertion :)
20:41:14  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1810 (New): Aluminium Plant animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1810
20:43:15  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1811 (New): Biorefinery animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1811
20:43:15  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1812 (New): Brewery animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1812
20:43:15  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1813 (New): Brick Works animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1813
20:44:38  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1814 (New): Cement Plant animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1814
20:44:38  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1815 (New): Clay Pit animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1815
20:44:39  <Rubidium> as it's been there since NFORenum < 3.2
20:46:37  <Rubidium> probably somewhere 2.5-ish
20:46:52  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1816 (New): Dairy animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1816
20:46:52  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1817 (New): Fertiliser Plant animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1817
20:46:52  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1497:56b9b59aea5e: Add #1773: Croation translation (Voya... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/56b9b59aea5e
20:46:52  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1773 (Closed): Add Croatian translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1773#change-4611
20:46:55  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1818 (New): Glass Works animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1818
20:48:18  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1819 (New): Lumber Yard animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1819
20:49:45  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1820 (New): Machine Shop animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1820
20:49:45  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1821 (New): Metal Foundry animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1821
20:49:45  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1822 (New): Oil Refinery animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1822
20:52:13  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1823 (New): Oil Rig animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1823
20:52:13  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1824 (New): Oil Well animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1824
20:52:13  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1825 (New): Paper Mill animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1825
20:52:13  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1826 (New): Sand Quarry animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1826
20:53:33  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1827 (New): Stockyard animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1827
20:53:33  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1828 (New): Sugar Refinery animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1828
20:53:33  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1829 (New): Textile Mill animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1829
21:01:13  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1498:bd5cdece76fc: Add #1772: Serbian translation (etran) (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/bd5cdece76fc
21:01:14  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1772 (Closed): Add Serbian translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1772#change-4612
21:08:00  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1499:d84a80229e69: Add #1775: French translation (peetle... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/d84a80229e69
21:08:00  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1775 (Closed): Add French translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1775#change-4613
21:08:55  <Brot6> NFORenum - Bug #1809: assertion failed in message.cpp:180 (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1809#change-4614
21:13:24  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1500:dd7f5938844b: Fix (r1499): Use correct language codes (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/dd7f5938844b
21:14:41  <planetmaker> hm.. Russian sucks. I find no way to get it into the grf
21:15:28  <andythenorth> for why?
21:16:12  <planetmaker> for one because of the nforenum assertion it triggers and for two because of the zillion errors it introduces and which I didn't yet manage to overcome by whatever file encoding assumption of the original file
21:17:30  <Terkhen> IIRC the original file was in plain ANSI
21:18:07  <planetmaker> forget my words
21:18:30  <planetmaker> the 'error' was to mix up IDs 07 and 87
21:18:41  <planetmaker> nice
21:26:22  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1501:51bbccc00f57: Add #1771: Russian translation (kvwrd) (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/51bbccc00f57
21:26:22  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1771 (Closed): Add Russian Translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1771#change-4617
21:28:08  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1659: FIRS redefines cargo classes of goods. (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1659#change-4618
21:33:00  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1659: FIRS redefines cargo classes of goods. (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1659#change-4619
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21:40:34  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #1830 (Confirmed): No wagon can carry lumber (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1830
21:40:37  <Rubidium> planetmaker: it "needs" to be 87, not 07 as language
21:40:58  <planetmaker> the assertion?
21:41:00  <planetmaker> yes
21:41:11  <planetmaker> and vice versa. The IDs were mixed up
21:41:46  <planetmaker> [22:18]	<planetmaker>	the 'error' was to mix up IDs 07 and 87
21:42:00  <Rubidium> ah, you already said that
21:42:04  * Rubidium blames his reading
21:42:41  * planetmaker should thus never trust the IDs, even if they seem right on first glance ;-)
21:43:09  <planetmaker> shall I amend the ticket with that piece of information?
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21:46:52  <Rubidium> nah, it shouldn't have crashed in the first place :)
21:48:19  <planetmaker> that's why I said amend. Not close
21:49:26  <Rubidium> maybe frosch123 has a clue about the assert at grfcodec/src/messages.cpp:180 (#1809)
21:49:27  <Brot6> Rubidium: #1809 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1809 "NFORenum - Bug #1809: assertion failed in message.cpp:180 - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
21:51:54  <frosch123> %K ?
21:51:57  <frosch123> what's that
21:52:41  <Brot6> NFORenum - Bug #1809: assertion failed in message.cpp:180 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1809#change-4620
21:54:38  <Rubidium> something to draw a particular string
21:54:40  <frosch123> blame does not help, it's there since the beginning
21:54:47  <Rubidium> yeah :(
21:54:53  <Rubidium> at least the beginning of svn
21:55:02  <frosch123> NFO_MESSAGE(SMASH_STACK,"Control character %2x does not match %K on top of stack.\n",USE_PREFIX|HAS_OFFSET)
21:55:05  <frosch123> only used there
21:55:16  <Rubidium> yep, exactly the string that's printed
21:56:08  <frosch123> what does it mean? :s
21:56:29  <Rubidium> %K becomes something like "word", "byte" or "dword"
21:57:03  <Rubidium> (or "date" or "textID")
21:57:29  <Rubidium> so it's basically a string lookup in a table
21:57:54  <Rubidium> and it doesn't look obviously wrong in any way
21:59:23  <frosch123> but what does the message mean?
21:59:51  <frosch123> on which sprite is it printed?
22:00:42  <Rubidium> on most, if not all of the russian strings (line 6115 and further)
22:00:47  <Rubidium>  //!!Warning (145): Offset 11: Control character 80 does not match word on top of stack.
22:00:51  <Rubidium> that's a typical error
22:01:01  <planetmaker> not on all. But... many
22:01:39  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1502:ecb1547e0b8c: Change: tweaks to sugar refinery psd ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ecb1547e0b8c
22:01:39  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1503:0d7bf21a7dcf: Feature: additional layout for Builde... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/0d7bf21a7dcf
22:01:39  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1504:6df647453446: merge (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6df647453446
22:02:55  <frosch123> hmm, so due to the 87/07 thingie it does not detect the utf-8 prefix
22:03:06  <frosch123> and then encounters something it thinks is a stringcode?
22:03:11  <Rubidium> yep
22:03:33  <Rubidium> a string code that wants to use some amount of data from the stack
22:03:55  <Rubidium> which isn't on the stack according to the validator thingy
22:04:10  <Rubidium> not that the stack validator seems quite limited in its functionality
22:07:05  <frosch123> i have no idea what it should check :s
22:08:46  <Rubidium> me neither-ish :(
22:10:12  <andythenorth> planetmaker: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1679
22:10:52  <Rubidium> it seems to be only used for cargo strings
22:11:16  <Rubidium> so maybe dalestan had ideas with it, but as many things in nforenum, never finished it
22:11:48  <planetmaker> andythenorth: I think it can meanwhile be closed
22:11:59  <planetmaker> I added the updates a few days ago
22:13:27  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Code Review #1679 (Closed): updates to German translation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1679#change-4630
22:18:31  * Rubidium ponders just removing the assertion and be done with the bug; it doesn't seem to break, and when it does which is quite unlikely given how long it took to find this one we can look into it a bit further
22:22:07  <frosch123> sounds fine :)
22:22:56  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1505:0be3e6774d7a: Change: drawn icon for Clay cargo (no... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/0be3e6774d7a
22:22:56  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1831 (New): Review cargo icons - are all cargos covered? (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1831
22:23:38  <planetmaker> lol :-) that's creative bug fixing :-P
22:24:25  <Rubidium> planetmaker: any better idea?
22:24:37  <planetmaker> nope :-)
22:25:13  <planetmaker> actually yes. But that is unrelated to that bug and involves my bed.
22:25:14  <Brot6> NFORenum - Bug #1809 (Closed): assertion failed in message.cpp:180 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1809
22:25:14  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 787:496bda75fde5: Change: don't unconditionally assert upon the stack validat... (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/496bda75fde5
22:25:14  <Brot6> NFORenum - Bug #1809 (Closed): assertion failed in message.cpp:180 (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1809#change-4631
22:25:45  <andythenorth> mmm
22:25:49  <andythenorth> bed is good idea
22:26:04  <andythenorth> one ticket before FIRS 0.5.3 can be done
22:26:16  <Rubidium> frosch123: what's your idea on the other grfcodec/nforenum bugs/feature requests?
22:26:23  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1685: wrong english string (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1685#change-4632
22:26:41  <Rubidium> the #1746 & #1751 ones that is
22:26:42  <Brot6> Rubidium: #1746 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1746 "NFORenum - Feature #1746: improve warning text - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
22:26:42  <Brot6> Rubidium: #1751 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1751 "NFORenum - Feature #1751: How to use escape for a part of a field? - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
22:28:40  <frosch123> too bad, #1403 is easier :p
22:28:40  <Brot6> frosch123: #1403 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1403 "GRFCodec - Feature #1403: Replace Animation Colors - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
22:28:49  <planetmaker> 1746 looks like a lot more trouble than it's worth. And actually accepting that can easily lead to nearly un-detectible bugs
22:28:51  <Terkhen> andythenorth: I'll update the spanish translation tomorrow morning
22:29:19  <Terkhen> good night
22:29:21  <andythenorth> I'll release FIRS 0.5.3 tomorrow then
22:29:24  <andythenorth> good night
22:29:24  <planetmaker> sorry, 1746
22:29:26  <Rubidium> night Terkhen
22:29:36  <planetmaker> good night Terkhen and andythenorth
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22:31:37  <Brot6> NFORenum - Feature #1751: How to use escape for a part of a field? (frosch) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1751#change-4634
22:32:03  <Rubidium> 1746, to me, seems like George doesn't get the point that the "expected" amount is already mentioned in the string, just not as "expected"
22:32:16  <frosch123> about #1746: i guess printing "found 123, expected 18" is possible as long as there are more found than expected
22:32:17  <Brot6> frosch123: #1746 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1746 "NFORenum - Feature #1746: improve warning text - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
22:32:29  <frosch123> but computing the number which is still missing might be quite hard
22:33:15  <Rubidium> there's a "needs more data" error as well
22:34:15  <Rubidium> "Expected %d more properties", "Expected more data for prop %2x. (%d bytes at %d.)", "Expected %d more bytes for prop %2x" to be precise
22:34:54  <frosch123> oh
22:35:09  <Rubidium> even though, how useful is the "found xyz" bit really?
22:35:59  <frosch123> well, you can put it like "%d surplus bytes found"
22:36:44  <frosch123> i.e. the message tells you how many bytes it expected, but not how many you are off
22:40:03  <Rubidium> hmm, or just ditch the offset data
22:40:12  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Feature #1403 (Assigned): Replace Animation Colors (frosch) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1403#change-4635
22:43:10  <Rubidium> but now I 'just' need a piece of nfo that triggers such a warning
22:44:14  <frosch123> take a valid nfo and append some stuff?
22:45:53  <planetmaker> good night
22:46:02  <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/1476.diff <- seems to work
22:47:16  <frosch123> wow :)
22:51:54  <SmatZ> what a non-OTTD coding style :(
22:52:29  <SmatZ> is space a forbidden character there? :)
22:53:25  <Rubidium> SmatZ: yeah :)
22:55:22  <Rubidium> I'm still waiting for Alberth to do that coding style sweep :)
22:55:26  <SmatZ> :-)
22:56:08  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 788:1a04b0399cba: Change: format some already existing information differentl... (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/1a04b0399cba
22:56:08  <Brot6> NFORenum - Feature #1746 (Closed): improve warning text (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1746#change-4636
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