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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 9th October 2011:
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00:33:36  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 758:4d4430b3b1e0: Change: Expand 'maintainer-clean' to clean those pnfo files ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/4d4430b3b1e0
00:53:21  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 759:30fc5c019717: Fix: Toyland ships and road vehicles were not re-generated f... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/30fc5c019717
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08:04:58  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 760:85c7bc649ca9: Codechange: Move all river sprites to the same directory and... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/85c7bc649ca9
08:07:23  <mib_q1qfjb> Brot6: what is the default place for the in game content manager to place ais - Ive searched the openttd directory and all children I dont want to do a find / on a 16 tb filesystem
08:08:47  <planetmaker> content_download/ai
08:08:52  <planetmaker> you've been talking to a bot
08:09:26  <planetmaker> and the readme tells you the applicable openttd data dirs. Which depends on the OS
08:09:41  <planetmaker> and my crystal ball is broken
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08:15:26  <planetmaker> yes, you're welcome. But why did I anticipate this behaviour?
08:24:13  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2624:b0d8b59b1fd7: Update: Italian translation (Snail) (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b0d8b59b1fd7
08:28:32  <LordAro> planetmaker: :)
08:30:07  <V453000> :D
08:38:59  <andythenorth> planetmaker: #3104 ?
08:38:59  <Brot6> andythenorth: planetmaker: #3104 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/3104 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3104: DevZone compile failed - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
08:40:16  <andythenorth> also, FIRS r3k is within sight
08:42:56  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2989: Define all spritelayouts correctly (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2989#change-8174
08:43:52  <andythenorth> but
08:44:02  <andythenorth> so many FIRS tickets I don't want to tackle :(
08:46:13  <andythenorth> bbl
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08:47:47  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3104 (Rejected): DevZone compile failed (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3104#change-8176
09:12:14  <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 374:301f2b73af07: Change: Depend the scm only on the source fil... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/301f2b73af07
09:16:53  <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 375:c9feb86f7453: Fix: Clean the scm files also when the path c... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/c9feb86f7453
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10:00:17  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 761:de73cdf002c5: Add: Introduce a graphics source list and allow to generate ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/de73cdf002c5
10:00:18  <planetmaker> Ammler: now we should be able to use both gimp and nml on OpenGFX
10:00:54  <planetmaker> we just want to make sure that we still add also their output to the source repo
10:01:28  <planetmaker> what we could change now, is that the CF runs a 'make maintainer-clean' prior to building to make sure everything is really built from source
10:01:45  <planetmaker> and add gimp and nml to the deps
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10:55:52  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 223:b7fbb3409a2e: refactor the switch generation into a fun... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/b7fbb3409a2e
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11:42:56  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 224:e346ed8a9ff9: implement random switch (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/e346ed8a9ff9
11:42:56  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 225:5990e0ff84c1: use random switch for Abteilwagen (normal... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/5990e0ff84c1
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11:50:43  <planetmaker> Yexo: is there a reason that nmlc --nfo blub.nfo blub.nml requires the graphics files to be present?
11:53:50  <frosch123> maybe to figure out the right compression and or clipping?
11:53:51  <Ammler> it makes the grf too
11:54:39  <planetmaker> if I select --nfo no grf file is produced
11:58:33  <Ammler> then I think, it is simply not done with the change since the grf isn't made per default
12:00:44  <planetmaker> frosch123: the compression might be the thing... though iirc it is only finally decided upon writing the grf
12:06:47  <Ammler> planetmaker: not sure, if I like the whole name gimp in the filename
12:07:00  <planetmaker> hm?
12:07:24  <planetmaker> err-no-context
12:08:07  <Ammler> why not like the the nfo extend the extension to like .gpng
12:08:33  <Ammler> 0r ppng :-)
12:09:30  <planetmaker> it breaks association with graphics programmes
12:09:37  <Ammler> really?
12:09:42  <Ammler> ah, windows
12:10:05  <planetmaker> and it's really not something I spent thought on ;-)
12:10:14  <planetmaker> as it IMHO doesn't matter
12:10:41  <Ammler> it is just not nice to have a "name" in the filename :-)
12:10:45  <planetmaker> much more of a concern is that it won't build when the png is missing and the pnfo is built from pnml
12:11:15  <Ammler> why should it build then?
12:11:35  <planetmaker> it should generate the png from xcf. then generate the pnfo from pnml. then the grf
12:12:03  <planetmaker> it knows everything. It just doesn't know it knows :-P
12:12:04  <Ammler> ah I see
12:12:07  <Ammler> it doesn't work
12:12:16  <planetmaker> yes, it doesn't :-(
12:12:38  <planetmaker> you can do either. But not both concurrently
12:13:09  <Ammler> well, then we do for now the nml part
12:13:14  <Ammler> is that ok?
12:13:37  <planetmaker> well. The gimp part is *very* useful :-)
12:13:52  <planetmaker> But yes, it's ok. I'll make it work concurrently ;-)
12:14:12  <Ammler> I wait....
12:14:33  <planetmaker> you don't have to wait with the nfo2nml conversion
12:14:41  <Ammler> I should fix the super duper compiler script
12:14:47  <Ammler> so cets will build on push
12:15:11  <Ammler> planetmaker: well, I have no target to delete nml nfos, have I?
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12:16:29  <planetmaker> Ammler: you do: maintainer-clean
12:16:59  <planetmaker> as sugested in the make documentation ;-)
12:17:06  <Ammler> then it deletes both
12:17:26  <planetmaker> yes. But as we don't yet use gimp, much, don't worry
12:17:37  <planetmaker> just don't nml-convert the rivers ;-)
12:17:39  <Ammler> did not work here, hmm
12:18:19  <Ammler> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/620/
12:18:58  <Ammler> ah, I guess, the makefile still lacks checks, if the tools are available :-)
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12:19:13  <Ammler> I have of course not installed the tools on my new notebook :-P
12:19:40  <planetmaker> :-)
12:20:00  <planetmaker> yes, it lacks those checks
12:20:08  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 762:8d795161ecb1: Fix: Determination of start sprite failed when the start spr... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/8d795161ecb1
12:20:08  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 763:266d67508bb5: Codechange: Optionally generate the font sprites fron nml so... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/266d67508bb5
12:27:48  <Ammler> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/621/ <-- planetmaker, still something missing?
12:28:21  <planetmaker> Ammler: yes, new(er) grfcodec / renum
12:28:54  <planetmaker> it must be newer than a week or so
12:29:10  <Ammler> well, then you seriously should make a grfcodec release
12:29:18  <planetmaker> isn't there?
12:29:20  <Ammler> is that the part where I should make the cross compiling :-P
12:30:14  <Ammler> oh, there is without news
12:30:20  <Ammler> hmm, ok
12:30:54  <planetmaker> rb hand-compiled this release
12:31:11  <planetmaker> as no build-rule for grfcodec exists anywhere atm
12:32:13  <Ammler> don't forget to mention that in the release news of opengfx
12:32:53  <planetmaker> I didn't mention it. There's a new grfcodec after all
12:33:07  <planetmaker> Granted, I didn't think of it, either
12:33:10  <Ammler> oh, there is also a new opengfx
12:33:17  <planetmaker> :-)
12:33:31  <Ammler> and that opengfx needs the new grfcodec?
12:33:35  <planetmaker> yes
12:33:45  <planetmaker> as current openttd needs that opengfx ;-)
12:33:46  <Ammler> then I happily missed the releases :-P
12:34:01  <planetmaker> Friday IIRC
12:34:11  <planetmaker> or yesterday? Dunno
12:34:23  <Ammler> but the opengfx will still work with openttd 1.1, right?
12:36:07  <Ammler> IMO, such a release would have earned a main version bump
12:37:31  <planetmaker> yes, it will happily work with earlier OpneTTD versions
12:37:52  <Ammler> same with grfcodec
12:37:58  <planetmaker> and a version bump... yes... maybe :-) You told me not to bump until toyland has more genuine toyland sprites :-)
12:38:07  <Ammler> quite ugly to rise just bugfix version
12:38:08  <planetmaker> for grfcodec it's just a datafile update
12:38:19  <Ammler> still
12:38:28  <Ammler> I didn't say "wrong" but ugly :-)
12:38:30  <planetmaker> you could use old grfcodec and edit your datafiles
12:38:54  <planetmaker> well, can be seen this way and that. Nothing big added to OpenGFX either. Just the new sprites which OpenTTD requires
12:40:00  <Ammler> IMO, the update is required
12:40:08  <Ammler> it isn't just a glitch or so
12:40:34  <Ammler> grfcodec didn't even get a news post
12:40:36  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 226:2652a7c5b9e3: if the epoch parameter is set to "none" o... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/2652a7c5b9e3
12:40:45  <planetmaker> yes, it's required or it'll complain
12:41:17  <Ammler> do you think, the errors I pasted are obvious?
12:41:49  <planetmaker> the sprite error?
12:42:17  <planetmaker> not for someone who doesn't know how unknow features show as errors in too old build tools :-)
12:43:46  <planetmaker> but using a too old compiler doesn't usually give good error messages anywhere :-)
12:43:47  <Ammler> 5.1.1 or 5.1.2 doesn't look really like it can fail because of it :-)
12:44:02  <Ammler> that's what I meant you should bump in such cases more obvious
12:44:41  <Ammler> and mention it in the release news
12:44:50  <planetmaker> yes I understood that.
12:45:07  <planetmaker> And when I released OpenGFX the grfcodec release didn't exist and I didn't even think about that issue
12:45:12  <Ammler> I have you, we will see how the other distro maintainers will react
12:45:24  <planetmaker> and the debian maintainer knows ;-)
12:46:02  <Ammler> debian, aren't those still at openttd 0.6 ?
12:46:16  <planetmaker> 1.1.3
12:49:13  <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/nfo2nml <-- a useful small bash script, Ammler
12:49:52  <planetmaker> cat sprites/nfo/xx/blah-4092-blub.pnfo | nfo2nml > sprites/nml/xx/blah-4092-blub.pnml
12:53:49  <Ammler> nice
12:58:40  <planetmaker> you might want to do the same with the nforenum'ed nfo file so that you get the sprite numbers right
12:58:54  <planetmaker> they're often wrong. The comments then can be copied from the original pnfo
13:01:14  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 764:da3b93e25ee7: Doc: bump grfcodec requirement (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/da3b93e25ee7
13:01:57  <planetmaker> Ammler: maybe the nfo2nml script can be improved by not discarding comments
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13:02:32  <Ammler> the question is why do you drop comments?
13:03:52  <planetmaker> as they'd otherwise be somehow used in the base_graphics line - which also looks funny
13:04:04  <planetmaker> but it could be just commented out and then later hand-edited
13:04:20  <planetmaker> it works on a line-by-line basis and is a quick hack to get some test results. Nothing fancy
13:04:32  <planetmaker> thus "can be improved"
13:04:41  <planetmaker> and for mass-conversion it will be useful to be improved
13:04:50  <planetmaker> it could also take care of trailing comments and keep them
14:19:01  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 227:be2b3fbb809c: add graphics decision for cargo type (not... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/be2b3fbb809c
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14:37:15  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 4:71d50d9345ab: Spec: update spec doc (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/71d50d9345ab
14:39:15  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 5:d7756fcda080: Spec: update spec doc (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/d7756fcda080
14:46:33  <frosch123> can someone please remind me what was the command to delete hg revisions
14:47:02  <Ammler> strip
14:47:08  <frosch123> thanks :)
14:47:25  <Ammler> (needs mq)
14:56:03  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 228:0e7b2a163636: restructure graphics decision syntax and ... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/0e7b2a163636
14:57:16  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 229:6b2007bf8591: remove unneded code in cargo switch (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/6b2007bf8591
15:02:42  <Brot6> cets: update from  to r229 done (569 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r229
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15:07:37  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 230:6e8b99ce1c51: add graphics for 3-axle compartment coach... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/6e8b99ce1c51
15:11:40  <Brot6> cets: update from r229 to r230 done (569 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r230
15:28:28  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 231:3d7964d6f4e1: add graphics for 3-axle compartment coach... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/3d7964d6f4e1
15:32:55  <Brot6> cets: update from r230 to r231 done (569 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r231
15:39:09  * planetmaker awaits the heat due to the merge ;-)
15:39:12  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 765:d246a1aa1df8: Change [Makefile]: Allow to generate png and pnfo files simu... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/d246a1aa1df8
15:39:12  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 766:5664059a2e13: Codechange: Generate the temperate terrain from pnml source ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/5664059a2e13
15:39:12  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 767:f3c65d83f171: Merge: Documentation update (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/f3c65d83f171
15:41:27  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 768:c7a56da35bdf: Fix: Also add the png file (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/c7a56da35bdf
15:44:21  <planetmaker> Ammler: now both concurrently should work, generating the gimp.png when included by a pnml file
15:44:29  <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Revision 153:74f7eb1da188: [Compiler] Fix: hgsubversion might not be enable... (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/revisions/74f7eb1da188
15:44:29  <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Revision 154:1e2e71379ba5: [Compiler] Fix: build push also if no tag yet is... (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/revisions/1e2e71379ba5
15:44:46  <planetmaker> Note that the generated pngs MUST have the extension "gimp.png" and not just "png"
15:45:09  <planetmaker> otherwise the dependencies would be generated for each png which is a bit pointless (though it wouldn't hurt)
15:45:13  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2625:c46be13bf731: Fix: Metal Fab. Plant didn't have til... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c46be13bf731
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16:06:01  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 769:d239a6d8317c: Codechange: Generate arctic terrain from pnml source and arc... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/d239a6d8317c
16:07:15  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 232:3d619e7866f4: pdate graphics for 3-axle compartment coa... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/3d619e7866f4
16:12:08  <Brot6> cets: update from r231 to r232 done (569 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r232
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16:56:28  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 770:fa4b062a43b5: Fix [Makefile]: Version in source bundles could be wrong und... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/fa4b062a43b5
16:56:59  <planetmaker> hm... building opengfx from tar bundle is A LOT faster... :S
17:20:33  <Brot6> firs: update from r2623 to r2625 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2625
17:23:15  <Brot6> opengfx: update from r757 to r770 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r770
17:27:31  <Brot6> cets: update from r219 to r232 done (569 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/nightlies/r232
17:28:48  <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: update from r372 to r375 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/nightlies/r375
17:42:28  <Brot6> Manual Industries - Bug #3132 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3132
17:44:56  <planetmaker> hm... bad gateway should not trigger an issue
17:45:10  <Brot6> vactrainset: compile of r1 still failed (#3044) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/vactrainset/nightlies/ERROR/r1
17:46:10  * ^Spike^ is innocent...
17:46:17  <^Spike^> unless you were not talking about nginx :)
17:47:13  <planetmaker> I'm talking about #3132
17:47:13  <Brot6> planetmaker: #3132 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/3132 "Manual Industries - Bug #3132: DevZone compile failed - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
17:47:24  <planetmaker> which is not a valid ticket for the project
17:47:45  <^Spike^> hmmm
17:47:50  <^Spike^> bundles should work....
17:47:57  <^Spike^> checked that one 118 after i did it..
17:48:13  <^Spike^> and it doesn't seem like it compiled an hour ago when i was updating :)
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17:49:39  <^Spike^> can you retry that build or?
17:50:42  <planetmaker> it will do that on its own
17:50:47  <planetmaker> iirc
17:51:05  <planetmaker> but maybe it should do so before it reports an error ;-)
17:51:27  <planetmaker> we didn't have a 502 or 404 error on the CF for quite some time
17:52:03  <^Spike^> well all i did was update hproxy and seemed to update to nginx 1.0
17:52:10  <^Spike^> and since it started and all proxied hosts worked
17:52:14  <^Spike^> i assumed it was no problem
17:52:26  <^Spike^> as it seemed multiple compile actions worked
17:52:32  <^Spike^> i think this is a rarity or something
17:58:54  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: ogfx-trains (Diffsize: 36114), narvs (11 warnings), ogfx-industries (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 129173), foobarstramtracks (Diffsize: 37000), rust, dutchtramset (Diffsize: 25964), swisstowns, dutchroadfurniture (Diffsize: 1984), spanishtowns (Diffsize: 2), frenchtowns, ogfx-rv, ogfx-landscape (2 warnings), swedishrails, german-townnames, belarusiantowns
17:58:54  <Brot6> (Diffsize: 30), indonesiantowns (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 1), airportsplus (Diffsize: 964)
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18:17:45  <Brot6> Manual Industries - Bug #3132 (Rejected): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3132
18:17:45  <Brot6> Manual Industries - Bug #3132 (Rejected): DevZone compile failed (frosch) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3132#change-8187
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18:40:44  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 771:b43698fef717: Codechange: Generate temperate sea shore from pnml and xcf s... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/b43698fef717
18:41:54  <Brot6> MailAI - Revision 15:70fddd202cef: BUGFIX failing in some occasions to build a truck station next... (Hephi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-mailai/repository/revisions/70fddd202cef
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18:59:42  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 772:f8fa984b789b: Codechange: Generate arctic sea shore from pnml and xcf sources (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/f8fa984b789b
19:02:20  <Brot6> clientpatches: compile of r23014 still failed (#2964) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/ERROR/r23014
19:04:11  <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r23014 still failed (#2966) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r23014
19:06:22  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r23014 still failed (#2446) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r23014
19:08:17  <Ammler> ^Spike^: those gateway issues could be solved with our own obs
19:08:45  <Ammler> I do check gateway, but sometimes, it happens that the gateway fails after the test
19:29:45  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 773:e34522d677d4: Codechange: Generate tropical sea shore from pnml and xcf so... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/e34522d677d4
19:41:49  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 6:9335703ea2f4: Cleanup: remove nfo makefile framework (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/9335703ea2f4
19:43:50  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 7:f94e07e06f64: Add: nml makefile framework (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/f94e07e06f64
19:44:37  <planetmaker> hm... I'd not add the example files :-)
19:44:51  <andythenorth> I can cleanup
19:45:02  <andythenorth> the structure is unfamiliar to me
19:45:16  <andythenorth> is /sprites/foo deprecated?
19:45:46  <planetmaker> I used to call the source directory src instead of sprites
19:46:02  <andythenorth> so I can amend without breaking anything?
19:46:13  <planetmaker> you can add subdirs as needed
19:46:15  <andythenorth> it fits convention with all the other projects I work on
19:46:30  <planetmaker> you can also move the gfx dir back into src
19:46:45  <planetmaker> sprites simply does not fit with nml projects
19:46:50  <planetmaker> it's not a sprite directory
19:46:54  <planetmaker> it's a source directory
19:47:17  <planetmaker> but names are just names
19:47:23  <andythenorth> I might overlook that in favour of the shortcuts my brain knows to navigate structure
19:47:39  <Rubidium> it also simply does not hold for anything newgrf-y
19:48:10  <Rubidium> it only makes some sense for decoded stuff and grfs (excluding newgrfs)
19:49:13  * andythenorth tries to figure out which files are not needed :)
19:49:21  <planetmaker> makefile*txt
19:49:30  <planetmaker> gfx/*
19:49:44  <andythenorth> what is parsetab.py doing?
19:50:00  <planetmaker> something which should not be packed :-O
19:50:22  <planetmaker> hm, it's not. It's a file generated by nml
19:51:00  <andythenorth> custom tags?
19:51:40  <planetmaker> it's autogenerated by the makefile to insert {VERSION}  etc into strings
19:52:02  <planetmaker> thus you can name your newgrf "grfname {VERSION}" where it will be replaced by the rev number
19:52:10  <planetmaker> or {FILENAME}
19:52:18  <andythenorth>  ok
19:52:19  <andythenorth> cool
19:52:36  <planetmaker> you actually should not touch it as it's generated by make
19:52:38  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 8:802d7957530b: Cleanup: move some things around in the project structure (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/802d7957530b
19:52:52  <andythenorth> so I need to add a few things to .hgignore
19:53:00  <planetmaker> yes
19:53:10  <planetmaker> didn't it ship with a new .hgignore?
19:53:31  <andythenorth> mine is probably outdated
19:53:37  <andythenorth> I made this project a long time ago
19:54:07  <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #3133 (New): Monorail Local Pax Series (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3133
19:54:07  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 9:593b8cba6a56: Codechange: update hgignore (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/593b8cba6a56
19:54:49  <frosch123> night
19:54:53  <planetmaker> g'night frosch123
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19:54:58  <planetmaker> ha!
19:55:07  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 10:156e079e595c: Codechange: update hgignore - remove 'fish-' (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/156e079e595c
19:55:08  <planetmaker> quick enough. For once ;-)
19:55:16  <V453000> faster than light
19:55:41  <planetmaker> andythenorth: what you have to do is adjust Makefile.config
19:55:48  <andythenorth> yup
19:55:52  <planetmaker> and rename mynewgrf.pnml into - probably - bandit.pnml
19:56:01  <andythenorth> yup
19:56:06  <planetmaker> which Makefile.config has to know :-)
19:56:06  <andythenorth> doing it :)
19:56:12  <planetmaker> yeah, just telling
19:57:02  <andythenorth> thanks :)
19:59:48  <planetmaker> if you rename the src dir, you might need to tell Makefile.config about that, too SRC_DIR = is somewhere in that
20:00:01  <planetmaker> Add interpunctation where needed :-P
20:01:47  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 11:57bc759ab94c: Codechange: rename file (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/57bc759ab94c
20:01:47  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 12:790eb54155c7: Codechange: remove file (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/790eb54155c7
20:01:47  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 13:dc4b5f8de7c9: Codechange: update .hgignore (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/dc4b5f8de7c9
20:01:47  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 14:acf88ab87d75: Codechange: remove unneeded example code from header (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/acf88ab87d75
20:07:13  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 15:a324ada0d5a2: Change: adjust makefile to setup for this project (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/a324ada0d5a2
20:07:29  <andythenorth> that builds now
20:07:37  * andythenorth has finished BANDIT :P
20:07:53  <andythenorth> 'the grf that does nothing'
20:08:14  <andythenorth> I need a grfid
20:08:42  <andythenorth> anyone suggest something?
20:09:22  <Rubidium> 42424242
20:09:50  <andythenorth> hmm
20:10:05  <Rubidium> or FFFFFFFF for a GRF that does nothing
20:13:06  <Hirundo> I'd use 42i as grfid for an imaginary grf that is the answer to everything
20:15:28  <Rubidium> FF"42i" then ;)
20:15:43  <planetmaker> :-D
20:15:59  <andythenorth> you are a great help, thanks
20:16:01  <planetmaker> pst, andythenorth, don't trust everyone here
20:16:03  <andythenorth> what's BANDIT :P
20:16:11  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 774:a62b0fab2723: Codechange: Add NML source for manager faces (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/a62b0fab2723
20:16:11  <andythenorth> in hex?
20:16:33  <planetmaker> "BAND"
20:16:56  <planetmaker> or \BA"NDT"
20:16:57  * andythenorth needs to visit the grfid specs anyway
20:17:07  <planetmaker> anything but FFxxxxxx
20:17:22  <planetmaker> iirc :-)
20:17:52  <Rubidium> 6D620401 ;)
20:18:56  <Hirundo> BANDIT = 42414E444954
20:19:24  <Hirundo> add 20h for uppercase->lowercase
20:20:02  * andythenorth ponders BANDIT / Trucks
20:20:28  <andythenorth> one of you will suggest something witty I'm sure
20:21:27  <Rubidium> @base 36 16 BANDIT
20:21:27  <Webster> Rubidium: 28B5FA35
20:21:42  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3134 (New): Set a grfid (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3134
20:22:37  <andythenorth> now I need to visit the nml spec :)
20:24:33  <andythenorth> so I write bytes by prefixing \
20:24:34  <andythenorth> ?
20:24:48  <andythenorth> it's like inverse escaping
20:24:51  <andythenorth> how cute :)
20:25:39  <andythenorth> my issue count is now 0 again
20:26:17  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 16:8582bf05d08a: Codechange: update .hgignore further (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/8582bf05d08a
20:26:17  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3134 (Closed): Set a grfid (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3134
20:26:17  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 17:f32eb93ac9da: Change: set a grfid (closes #3134) (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/f32eb93ac9da
20:26:17  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3134 (Closed): Set a grfid (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3134#change-8188
20:26:25  <Hirundo> There are always open issues, if there are none then that's the issue ;-)
20:28:34  <V453000> :D nicelky sayd
20:28:40  <V453000> -typos
20:28:50  <Rubidium> @base 36 10 ZZZZZZ
20:28:50  <Webster> Rubidium: 2176782335
20:28:53  <Rubidium> @base 36 16 ZZZZZZ
20:28:53  <Webster> Rubidium: 81BF0FFF
20:29:18  <andythenorth> @base 36 10 bedtime
20:29:18  <Webster> andythenorth: 24814344326
20:29:38  <andythenorth> Webster: I agree
20:29:47  <andythenorth> good night
20:30:07  <Rubidium> new patent: "method for generating GRFID from up to 6 character long name" ;)
20:30:29  <andythenorth> Rubidium: I'll send a royalty now
20:32:05  <andythenorth> bye
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21:17:05  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 775:66cbd17ce8e3: Codechange: Add NML source for temperate foundations (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/66cbd17ce8e3
21:17:05  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 776:39aa467ff9ca: Codechange: Use NML source for temperate rail sprites (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/39aa467ff9ca
21:26:46  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 233:7cde982dfbbf: new column for recolour masks (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/7cde982dfbbf
21:26:46  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 234:2316a1c0f7c4: rename Tree.write() and Leaf.write() to w... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/2316a1c0f7c4
21:26:46  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 235:5c764288327e: stub for selecting recolour maps (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/5c764288327e
21:31:33  <Brot6> cets: update from r232 to r235 done (569 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r235
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21:49:42  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 777:ebc268d8df4b: Change: Also depend the pnfo files on the includes of the pn... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/ebc268d8df4b
21:49:59  <planetmaker> so... this all today made sure that OpenGFX has a very special build system which is only a remote relative of the NewGRF framework ;-)
21:51:22  <Brot6> NewGRF Viewer - Bug #3127: 64bit linux compilation (UnicycleBloke) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3127#change-8189
21:54:51  <planetmaker> good night
21:57:20  <Brot6> NewGRF Viewer - Code Review #3126: do not add binaries to source repo (UnicycleBloke) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3126#change-8190
22:06:11  <Brot6> NewGRF Viewer - Code Review #3126: do not add binaries to source repo (UnicycleBloke) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3126#change-8191
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