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02:16:30 *** Jupix has quit IRC 02:19:24 *** Jupix has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:36:10 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:05:05 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:07:52 <V453000> planetmaker: around? I have talked to andy and we agreed on the point that there should be created a place which would serve as a source for pixel art knowledge around openttd. I guess a good place for that to that would be if we asked you for a separate project on the devzone? :) 11:08:16 <V453000> many to that* :) 11:12:57 <Ammler> you both are able to create a project :-) 11:13:39 <V453000> :D how? 11:14:06 <Ammler> go to a project, where you are manager and look for link "Create Subproject" 11:14:30 <V453000> is a subproject a valid separate project? 11:14:34 <Ammler> yep 11:14:41 <Ammler> they don't differ and can be moved 11:15:21 <V453000> oh right :) thanks 11:15:52 <V453000> so when I leave subproject of empty, it will make a normal project right? 11:17:06 <Ammler> it will always make a normal project 11:17:24 <Ammler> technically every project is same level 11:17:40 <V453000> oh :) 11:17:43 *** teddydestodes has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:18:11 <Ammler> subproject ist just to help you organise it a bit 11:18:25 <Ammler> maybe a good parent is home 11:18:30 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home 11:19:24 <V453000> doesnt offer that 11:19:27 <Ammler> this project is already a source for such things, btw., I hope you know about that :-) 11:19:54 <V453000> yes I do 11:20:07 <V453000> just not what I/we really want 11:20:19 <Ammler> as said, do not worry about the parent project 11:20:22 <V453000> ok 11:20:30 <Ammler> it can always be moved from an admin 11:20:44 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/pixel \o/ 11:20:54 <Ammler> shall I move it to home? 11:21:55 <Ammler> also made you manager of home, so you can cleanup 11:22:17 <V453000> I dont know, if it is needed :) I dont really mind where exactly it is 11:23:00 <Ammler> it needs a parent imo, there should be no project without parent :-) 11:23:13 <V453000> righto 11:23:35 <Ammler> well, except you like to make this parent and add a lot subprojects :-P 11:23:53 <Ammler> but as said, this is not fixed and can always be changed 11:23:59 <Ammler> ti does not change url or so 11:24:13 <V453000> I noticed :) nice 11:25:42 <Ammler> I am looking forward to see, what this becomes :-P 11:27:24 <V453000> me too 11:43:43 *** teddydestodes has quit IRC 11:47:04 <Ammler> planetmaker: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/LATEST/log/opengfx-r913-openttd.log 11:50:11 <Ammler> the extra grf is loaded like 3 times? 12:17:33 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #3578: Font update (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3578#change-9529 12:26:25 *** swissfan91 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:26:46 <swissfan91> can anyone help me WRT making a devzone area for TARS? 12:28:01 <Ammler> swissfan91: do you have already a project on DevZone? 12:28:38 <swissfan91> nope. 12:30:26 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/tars <-- visit settings to fiddle around 12:30:45 <swissfan91> thanks :) 12:31:13 <Ammler> also it will create a mercurial repo for the source 12:31:16 <swissfan91> shall I keep TARS Objects, TARS Towns etc etc all within that project? 12:31:26 <Ammler> you could, yes 12:31:37 <Ammler> you are now able to create your own projects 12:32:00 <Ammler> you find link "create subproject" on that pag 12:33:25 <swissfan91> ah yes. So TARS as the project, and then the subprojects as Objects, Towns etc? 12:33:57 <Ammler> yes 12:34:02 <Ammler> like japan sets 12:34:18 <Ammler> basically that is all up to you 12:34:29 <Ammler> it also depends how you like to manage the source 12:35:05 <Brot6> repository /home/hg/tars registered in Redmine with url /home/hg/tars 12:35:05 <Brot6> repository /home/hg/tars created 12:35:33 <Ammler> then maybe you won't need this ^, I activated the repo already, but does not harm, if unused 12:37:12 <swissfan91> I see... I'll give it a go. 12:37:21 <swissfan91> don't shout at me if I ruin the devzone :P 12:37:41 <Brot6> Pixel - Feature #3669 (New): Drawing wood textures (Swissfan91) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3669 12:38:54 <swissfan91> when creating a subproject... it asks for an Identifier... what's that? 12:39:05 <Ammler> swissfan91: just try 12:39:29 <Ammler> identifier is for the url and repo 12:39:47 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/p/<identifier> 12:39:59 <Ammler> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/<identifier> 12:40:16 <Ammler> that one can never change 12:40:27 <swissfan91> got it. 12:40:28 <Ammler> for you it might be tars-objects 12:40:41 <Ammler> tars-towns 12:42:04 <Brot6> mode change on /home/hg/tars 12:45:01 <Ammler> hmm, I would not make tars private, just disable all modules 12:47:31 <swissfan91> have I made it private? 12:47:55 <swissfan91> oops 12:49:03 <Brot6> mode change on /home/hg/tars 12:50:17 <dihedral> :-) 12:52:21 <Ammler> you kinda hide the subprojects too that way 12:53:23 <dihedral> Ammler you little redmine guru ;-) 12:54:34 <Ammler> Sali dih :-) 12:55:03 <dihedral> hey sir :-) 13:09:27 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #3578: Font update (PaulC) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3578#change-9530 13:26:44 <Brot6> Pixel - Feature #3670 (New): 32 bpp (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3670 13:28:31 <Brot6> Pixel - Feature #3670: 32 bpp (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3670#change-9531 13:29:56 <Ammler> V453000: why not use http://irc.openttdcoop.org/?channels=openttdcoop.pixel ? 13:30:38 <V453000> cause I dont know that link ? :D 13:30:45 <V453000> replacing 13:30:56 <Ammler> but you know that upper complicated mibbit one? 13:31:19 <V453000> no I was somehow able to browse it :) 13:31:45 <V453000> whatever, thank you :) 13:32:03 <Ammler> :-P 13:33:27 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/documents <-- this documents might be useful for your project 13:35:22 <Ammler> I am able to move documents to another project if needed 13:35:47 <V453000> I think it should stay where it is 13:35:52 <V453000> this should be more about the artistic thing rather than technical media 13:36:10 <Ammler> the palette stuff? 13:36:24 <V453000> the pixel project is 13:36:29 <V453000> palette stuff is technical media imo 13:36:36 <V453000> the project expects you are already set up and drawing 13:36:42 <V453000> help center helps you set up to draw 13:36:55 <Ammler> ic 13:38:44 <Brot6> Pixel - Feature #3669: Drawing wood textures (Swissfan91) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3669#change-9532 13:48:15 *** swissfan91 has quit IRC 14:08:12 <Brot6> Pixel - Feature #3671 (New): Contrast in singlecolour sprites (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3671 14:10:23 <Brot6> Pixel - Feature #3671 (New): Contrast in singlecolour sprites (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3671 14:19:25 <Brot6> Pixel - Feature #3671 (New): Contrast in singlecolour sprites (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3671 14:19:25 <Brot6> Pixel - Feature #3669: Drawing wood textures (George) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3669#change-9534 14:33:47 <Brot6> Pixel - 01_small_final.png (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2411/01_small_final.png 14:45:58 <Brot6> Pixel - 01_small_final.png (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2412/01_small_final.png 15:07:56 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 15:09:58 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:21:22 *** planet has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:25:48 <Brot6> Pixel - Feature #3669: Drawing wood textures (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3669#change-9536 15:28:39 <Brot6> Pixel - Feature #3669: Drawing wood textures (Swissfan91) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3669#change-9537 15:29:52 <Brot6> Pixel - 01_final.png (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2415/01_final.png 15:29:52 <Brot6> Pixel - 01_wagons_step1.png (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2417/01_wagons_step1.png 15:29:53 <Brot6> Pixel - 01_small_wagons_step1.png (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2416/01_small_wagons_step1.png 15:29:58 <Brot6> Pixel - 01_darkening.png (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2414/01_darkening.png 15:30:01 <Brot6> Pixel - 01_small_darkening.png (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2413/01_small_darkening.png 15:30:04 <Brot6> Pixel - 01_small_extremelight.png (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2418/01_small_extremelight.png 15:30:07 <Brot6> Pixel - 01_extremelight.png (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2419/01_extremelight.png 15:30:16 <V453000> you might want to mute the notificantions here to evade spam :D 15:33:06 <Ammler> done :-) 15:33:09 <Brot6> feed Administration had 15 updates, showing the latest 10 15:33:09 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #3511: "Bad Gateway" or "Bad Request" with push build (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3511#change-9202 15:33:09 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #3511 (Confirmed): "Bad Gateway" or "Bad Request" with push build (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3511#change-9203 15:33:09 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #3511: "Bad Gateway" or "Bad Request" with push build (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3511#change-9235 15:33:10 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #3511 (Closed): "Bad Gateway" or "Bad Request" with push build (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3511#change-9236 15:33:13 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Membership #3220 (Closed): Indian Town Names (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3220#change-9237 15:33:16 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Membership #3220: Indian Town Names (admin) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3220#change-9238 15:33:19 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #3113 (Reopened): Building on push isn't done (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3113#change-9320 15:33:19 <Ammler> mäh 15:33:22 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - nppp_nml_r1792.xml (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2364/nppp_nml_r1792.xml 15:33:25 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #3113: Building on push isn't done (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3113#change-9343 15:33:28 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #3113 (Closed): Building on push isn't done (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3113#change-9345 15:38:13 <V453000> Thanks Ammler :P 15:41:03 *** planet has quit IRC 15:50:47 *** planetmaker is now known as Guest2039 15:50:55 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:13:19 *** planetmaker is now known as Guest2043 16:13:19 *** Guest2039 is now known as planetmaker 16:15:15 *** Guest2043 has quit IRC 17:23:32 <Brot6> bandit: update from r225 to r228 done (1 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/r228 17:32:19 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:48:17 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 19:07:31 <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Support #3632: list of vehicles to be drawn (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3632#change-9545 19:09:31 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:41:13 *** JVassie has quit IRC 19:50:42 <Ammler> V453000: you know, the wiki does create automatically TOCs, if you want, you can give me edit rights and I can show you... 19:50:58 <V453000> what is a TOC 19:51:12 <Ammler> or the wiki of home 19:51:17 <Ammler> check* 19:51:36 <Ammler> index 19:51:57 <Ammler> if you define parents 19:52:20 <Ammler> (via Rename) 19:52:36 <V453000> right 19:54:15 <Ammler> also if you add links to files, drop the host "http://dev.openttdcoop.org" 19:54:45 <Ammler> or whatever :-) 19:55:31 <Ammler> you can make Files "Categories" via versions 20:04:30 <Ammler> I guess, I was wrong 20:05:15 <V453000> ? :o 20:05:26 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/pixel/wiki/index <-- this is easy 20:05:38 <Ammler> but I have no clue how to include that to a wiki page 20:09:56 <Ammler> V453000: what about making the images links to the big view? 20:10:17 <Ammler> !/attachments/download/2421/01_small_wagons01.png!:/attachments/download/2420/01_wagons01.png 20:14:43 <V453000> that would actually be great :p 20:14:56 <Ammler> also you could add images to the wiki pages 20:15:11 <Ammler> not sure, if it is good to have the images for wiki page in files 20:15:19 <V453000> oh right 20:16:13 <V453000> it for sure isnt :) 20:16:50 <Ammler> it might just be confusing that the upload file form is before you edit the page :-) 20:18:26 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/pixel/wiki/sidebar <-- you can add content to the sidebar by editing that page 20:19:24 <Ammler> also the questions rises, why not use tt-wiki? 20:20:49 <V453000> doesnt have issues, does it 20:22:24 <Ammler> well, mediawiki is more comfortable, that is why NML moved there 20:22:42 <V453000> hmm 20:24:20 <V453000> I dont know I feel like the issues is a really good thing for solving some problems people have with drawing but at the same time the wiki is good enough for guides/articles/experience stories 20:38:26 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/pixel/settings <-- is that not better placed on the tt-wiki where there are the other tutorials? 20:38:55 <planetmaker> but maybe it's better here :-) 20:39:39 <V453000> I dont know I feel like "the other" (two?) tutorials are ... a bit not too thorough so there isnt much to lose 20:39:55 <V453000> and I dont think they are on one place either 20:40:24 <V453000> two are on the tt-wiki, purno has some somewhere afaik, and perhaps there is another one somewhere 20:40:36 <V453000> or am I missing someting? :) 20:40:46 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/DrawingSprites ? 20:40:53 <planetmaker> and related pages was what I thought of 20:41:07 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Category:Tutorials 20:41:33 <V453000> yeah 20:41:49 <V453000> I think there is like 10000 times more to write about 20:42:17 <planetmaker> of course. I fully agree there 20:42:32 <planetmaker> "short" is friendly in this context :-) 20:42:57 <V453000> hehe 20:42:59 <planetmaker> Ok, but if you know it. Fine. I just wondered 20:43:20 <V453000> unless there is some other hidden spot, I know about those 20:44:08 <V453000> I just feel like for the months I am drawing for I have a lot of ... stories? or experiences of what where, why, or just questions and various solutions to them which I think is a shame that isnt described anywhere 20:44:30 <planetmaker> no other spot I know. Of course there's http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/PalettesAndCoordinates#Palettes. But that's... the technical side 20:44:38 <V453000> because I guess everyone has to go through all of that by himself when starting to draw 20:44:47 <planetmaker> No, please, by all means: write about it! 20:45:04 <V453000> I sure will :p 20:46:15 <V453000> I was just pointing at the main reason why I feel it is good to write it 20:46:38 <planetmaker> You don't need to convince me there. I fully agree :-) 20:46:39 <V453000> because I have redrawn some trains like million times just because I suddenly discover some technique how to do it better 20:46:58 <V453000> yes yes :) I am not convincing you just showing my reasons 20:47:08 <planetmaker> :-) 20:52:11 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:14:18 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:16:46 <andythenorth> V453000: because I have redrawn some trains like million times just because I suddenly discover some technique how to do it better <- +1 21:31:41 <Brot6> Japanese Tracks - Revision 9:ae1d048c7cf5: Blank rails of (almost) all railtypes had a graphical ... (dandan) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/jptracks/repository/revisions/ae1d048c7cf5 21:41:21 <V453000> :) 21:45:28 <andythenorth> good night 21:45:29 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:40:25 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Feature #3672 (New): Level crossings for town / country side (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3672 22:40:47 *** welshdragon has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:46:32 *** JVassie has quit IRC 22:48:28 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:58:14 *** ODM has quit IRC