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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 24th September 2012:
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00:01:04  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1104:dbef4f77f7b1: Added tag 0.1 for changeset 81ed5c5a77f3 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/dbef4f77f7b1
00:01:16  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from beta to 0.1 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/releases/0.1
00:04:07  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4230 (Closed): Create New v0.1 Tag For Official Release And Add To BaNaNa... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4230#change-11616
00:06:30  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - WAS-0.1.zip XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3237/WAS-0.1.zip
00:15:38  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4235 (New): Change The Name of The GRF To Reflect GRF Version XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4235
00:23:40  <Beardie> planetmaker are you available having a issue updating our GRF on BaNaNaS
00:42:03  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Release of Version 0.1 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/70
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08:38:11  <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Hardware Check XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/71
08:39:43  <Ammler> planetmaker: please edit :-)
08:42:01  <dihedral> greetings
08:42:52  <dihedral> Ammler - do you need a VM for certain services?
08:43:30  <Ammler> dihedral: If I would like to setup a "backup system" we still have our old server :-P
08:43:48  <dihedral> ok - i was not sure about that :-)
08:44:00  <Ammler> the issue is not lack of hardware, just noone who would do the work
08:44:39  <Ammler> and since DNS changes are a bit of a hassle, if not every DNS server respects TTL
08:44:57  <Ammler> it is way too much work for a downtime of a day
08:46:21  <dihedral> not to everybody :-P
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08:47:37  <Ammler> I am sure, right those who would miss the server that night have such an ISP with "own DNS rules"
09:04:27  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #4222: Allow more than 64 user-defined parameters XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4222#change-11621
09:08:23  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Support #4236 (New): Support for 0.2 series XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4236
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09:42:18  <Beardie> planetmaker do you have any control over BaNaNaS there seems to be a error regarding the World Airliners Set GRF.
09:47:01  <Ammler> planetmaker: #openttdcoop timezone is UTC
09:48:12  <Ammler> and the check needs 10hours
09:48:37  <Beardie> Sorry to disturb you Ammler but i don;t know if you know who put WAS GRF on BaNaNaS do you?
09:48:42  <Ammler> if you run proper memory check, it needs that long
09:49:06  <Ammler> Beardie: no, I just wondered, why you still don't use the devzone zip
09:49:12  <Ammler> from bundles
09:49:36  <Beardie> devzone zip? you mean the zip file created in the releases section?
09:51:30  <Beardie> i do want to use that, but the problem is we can not upload a new version to BaNaNaS Ammler, Frank thought it put the current file on the their and i thought he did, well neither of us did. So someone has made a BaNaNaS account and put was on there and we can't change to access it.
09:57:39  <Ammler> Beardie: yes, that can only be changed by Rubidium afaik
10:00:08  <Beardie> unless i found who put the file on in the file on in the first place
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10:43:44  <planetmaker> oh, he left again
10:44:14  <planetmaker> thanks Ammler for the time. I was looking for it. Thus 12 hours timeframe in blog post is good
10:45:17  <planetmaker> well, I might find out who uploaded it, if I were at home. I don't have login here. But I don't dare touch that DB myself, thus won't change anything there :-)
10:45:22  <Ammler> planetmaker: I used devzone news instead blog, because that is read everyhwere
10:45:27  <Ammler> blog is just blog
10:45:58  <Ammler> hmm, I might have the tuesday bug there too
10:46:03  <planetmaker> I don't think so :-) I think both are important. But indeed I think that our blog should just copy the DevZone news
10:46:16  <Ammler> planetmaker: it does
10:46:21  <Ammler> that's the point
10:46:28  <Ammler> well, the portal does
10:46:29  <planetmaker> I didn't see it there anywhere
10:46:33  <planetmaker> yes, portal
10:47:10  <Ammler> the announcement is more important for the guys here
10:47:16  <Ammler> anyway
10:47:25  <Ammler> better double than none
10:47:29  <planetmaker> yes. I think the announcement here is important, too
10:47:41  <planetmaker> I don't think the one you posted should be skipped
10:47:56  <planetmaker> But I thought a more publicly visible one in the blog doesn't hurt either
10:49:45  <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Hardware Check XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/71
10:50:51  <Ammler> in any case, we should ask for refund
10:57:29  <Ammler> Hetzner: we'll schedule the Hardware check on 26.9.2012 at about 3 o'clock CEST.
12:16:53  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Feature Request #4234: disable fences XMuzzyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4234#change-11622
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14:10:15  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1105:aea051a5c17d: Edit GRF so that the filename reflects the verison XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/aea051a5c17d
14:10:18  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1103 to r1105 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1105
14:38:30  <Ammler> Beardie: bad idea, that results in grfname was-0.1.1-version.grf
14:38:54  <Ammler> as you see in the bundles
14:45:41  <Rubidium> so... what was Beardie looking for?
14:46:56  <Ammler> Rubidium: bananas access to his grf
14:47:51  <Rubidium> file_id 1351
14:48:35  <Rubidium> what is his bananas user name?
14:54:11  <Rubidium> added WAS_Team09 to the authors of Alpha2
14:55:26  <Beardie> hey
14:55:32  <Beardie> WAS_Team09?
14:55:43  <Beardie> well i never set that up can you tell me who did?
14:56:21  <Rubidium> wasteam09@googlemail.com
14:56:36  <Rubidium> or in other words: no, I can't
14:56:52  <Beardie> my BaNaNaS username is WASsup
14:57:01  <Rubidium> it was two years - 6 days ago
14:57:09  <Beardie> lol
14:57:26  <Beardie> so can you add otger users to edit the GRF>?
14:57:34  <Rubidium> yes
14:57:53  <Rubidium> user_id 2419
14:57:59  <Ammler> you shouldn't create new user for every release :-P
14:57:59  <Beardie> well the offical BaNaNaS account set up by me a dnf rank was "WASsup"
14:58:12  <Beardie> the older user has been lost Ammler
14:58:26  <Beardie> it was created by someone and that person has not told anyone what can i do?
14:58:34  <Ammler> might be better to recover such account instead setup another
14:58:40  <Rubidium> then you should see it now in bananas manager
14:58:45  <Beardie> i can try and guess some passwords for it
14:58:57  <Ammler> well, next time
14:59:29  <Beardie> yeah i am not chaing the username again
15:00:03  <Beardie> we got a record of it in the private section of the was forum just for the admin
15:00:11  <Beardie> so it should not be ofrgotten this time
15:00:25  <Beardie> also Ammler what was the issue with the previous revision of was?
15:01:15  <Ammler> if you add version to name, you have it twice as you see on bundles, your Makefile looks a bit broken
15:02:05  <Beardie> o i see
15:02:23  <Beardie> well if the GRF is alsways released as a bundle it makes no difference tot eh GRF name really
15:02:26  <Ammler> do you use the Makefile locally?
15:02:51  <Beardie> in what sense use it locally?
15:02:57  <Beardie> to make a grf just on ym computer?
15:02:58  <Beardie> yes
15:03:33  <Ammler> then try target bundle_zip
15:04:03  <Beardie> GRF_BUNDLEFILE
15:04:10  <Beardie> sets the bundle name
15:04:20  <Beardie> and hence causing a werid xip file
15:04:59  <Beardie> would you suggest jsut the filename in the bundle zip? or you think filename (which contains the version) and then the revision?
15:05:25  <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/releases/0.1
15:05:45  <Beardie> it has the repo_tag in teh file name
15:05:46  <Ammler> you should use that instead uploading your custom zip to devzone
15:06:08  <Beardie> custom zip? i only renamed it
15:06:14  <Ammler> so yes, you should fix the zip name to look as nice as your zip
15:06:32  <Ammler> Beardie: you reanmed it ans loaded it up to around 10 different places :-P
15:06:42  <Ammler> instead link always the same
15:07:06  <Beardie> you saying just provide a link straight to the bundle
15:07:11  <Ammler> yep
15:07:12  <Beardie> rather than mutiple uploads
15:07:30  <Ammler> well, if another upload, then do it to tt-forums, in case our server is down
15:07:32  <Beardie> humm though i did put it in the files section so i monitor the amount of downloads it had
15:07:40  <Ammler> but it is a bit silly to upload it muliple times to devzone
15:07:59  <Ammler> well, you have it also at the wiki page
15:08:19  <Ammler> bundles does also count the downloads
15:08:20  <Beardie> yes lol thought it wouls nice on the wiki page
15:08:27  <Beardie> o where does it count them?
15:08:30  <Ammler> then link the bundles one
15:08:37  <Beardie> ok
15:08:45  <Ammler> grep was http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/log.csv
15:09:15  <Ammler> but to have the bunles one looking nice, you should fix the Makefile
15:09:31  <Ammler> instead renaming it manually :-P
15:09:44  <Beardie> yes i am tlooking at it now
15:11:48  <Beardie> ammler is there a way i can test the bundle creation to see what the zip file would be called befiore acutally pushing the changes
15:36:46  <Beardie> Ammler what is the point of the files section of openttdcoop page?
15:38:40  <Yexo> Beardie: run "make bundle_zip"
15:38:54  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1106:2863ed5aa879: Cleaned Up Makefile to create good zip files name ... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/2863ed5aa879
15:38:54  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4237 (New): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4237
15:38:57  <Beardie> yeah i sussed out from the previous question to Ammler sorry lol
15:39:03  <Yexo> wrt the files section: you don't have to use it, but you can use if for miscelanious files
15:39:08  <Beardie> ok
15:39:46  <Beardie> btw Yexo thanks for the advice on version numbering we ow use 0.1 ;)
15:39:58  <Yexo> you're welcome :)
15:40:16  <Yexo> the latest failure is because you changed the name
15:40:24  <Beardie> Us people at the WAS set are still very new to all this
15:40:24  <Yexo> Was != was <- mind the capitalization
15:40:34  <Beardie> humm can not cahnge it?
15:40:46  <Yexo> you can, but only if you rename the file too
15:41:02  <Beardie> thought it i did
15:41:05  <Beardie> forgot to
15:44:25  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1105 to r1107 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1107
15:44:28  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1107:fdcc393bbf3c: Adjsuted Makefile to read was.nfo XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/fdcc393bbf3c
15:44:35  <Beardie> tehre we go :0
15:57:46  <Ammler> doesn't look like a fix :-P
15:58:13  <Beardie> you don;t like the fix?
15:58:32  <Beardie> What about the fix do you not like Ammler
16:00:38  <Ammler> it's not the filename which looked broken to me, rather the name of the zip
16:00:50  <Ammler> ah, you might have fixed that in other commits
16:01:28  <Beardie> yeah it looks nice and neat now?
16:01:36  <Ammler> well, also mind the upcase issue
16:01:47  <Beardie> well waht more issues can arise?
16:02:08  <Beardie> onyl issues i had was it was not reading the was.nfo
16:05:14  <Ammler> upcase might not cause an issue, it is just that nice, specially as you use windows
16:09:13  <Beardie> cool :)
16:10:50  <Beardie> I seem to be having a issue making my Bundle into a Zip, it creates the folder but does not place it in a Zip fole
16:10:55  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1107 to r1108 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1108
16:10:59  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1108:665fde332567: Changed Makefile to displaying Bundles Containing ... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/665fde332567
16:12:16  <Beardie> This Makefile does seem a little messey, trust yorick to make and do this XD
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16:15:46  <Ammler> Beardie: you missunderstood, upcase is ugly, imo :-P
16:15:59  <Beardie> o humm
16:16:07  <Beardie> would you like me to remove then?
16:16:28  <Ammler> no, I don't care, I just said, it is ugly
16:16:50  <Ammler> specially in combination with windows
16:17:21  <Beardie> well i'll remove it
16:17:26  <Beardie> but least the zip file name is better
16:17:32  <Beardie> would you suggest uing was-dev-rxxxx
16:17:38  <Ammler> try it with tag
16:17:57  <Ammler> nightly zip was never an issue afaik
16:19:14  <Beardie> how do i test the zip file name with a tag
16:19:32  <Ammler> for you it might be easiest to clone your current repo and try on the clone
16:19:41  <Ammler> hg clone was was-clone
16:20:10  <Ammler> cd was-clone ; hg tag 0.2-test ; hg up 0.2-test ; make bundle_zip
16:20:41  <Beardie> thats all good one issue
16:20:48  <Beardie> bundle_zip does not acutally put the files in a zip
16:20:55  <Beardie> it only puts them in a folder
16:21:00  <Beardie> says it fails on zipping
16:21:12  <Ammler> command missing?
16:21:21  <Beardie> could be
16:21:27  <Beardie> well i was having a look
16:21:39  <Beardie> bundle_zip: $(ZIP_FILENAME)
16:21:43  <Beardie> ZIP_FILENAME = $(GRF_BUNDLEFILE).$(ZIP_SUFFIX)
16:21:51  <Beardie> ZIP_SUFFIX = zip
16:22:04  <Beardie> GRFBUNDLEFile works fine
16:22:11  <Beardie> i think its the zip parts thats failling
16:22:33  <Ammler> well, what you get for budlefile?
16:22:49  <Beardie> GRF_BUNDLEFILE = $(FILENAME)-$(shell [ -n "$(REPO_TAGS)" ] && echo v$(REPO_TAGS) || echo dev-r$(GRF_REVISION))
16:22:59  <Beardie> i under stand some of that
16:23:08  <Beardie> its the shell bit i don;t get
16:23:19  <Beardie> defined as SHELL    = /bin/sh
16:23:19  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1108 to r1109 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1109
16:23:28  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1109:f4cb365f83f4: Removed Captial Letter from bundle file names XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/f4cb365f83f4
16:24:12  <Ammler> I would not add a v manually, it you want to use v, you should tag with v
16:24:37  <Beardie> o i see
16:24:40  <Beardie> so like
16:24:43  <Beardie> hg tag v0.1
16:24:48  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4229 (Closed): Remove Revision And Add v0.1 to GRF Title for v0.1 Release XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4229#change-11614
16:24:54  <Ammler> it does not really matter...
16:25:08  <Beardie> i rather adda v if thats ok
16:25:18  <Beardie> that means the tags will mathc as 0.1
16:25:20  <Beardie> 0.2
16:25:22  <Beardie> 0.3
16:25:23  <Beardie> etc
16:25:40  <Ammler> v is ok, but the tag should have it, but at the end it is your set :-P
16:25:47  <Beardie> lol
16:25:52  <Beardie> any ideas on the zip?
16:26:13  <Ammler> how did you zip before?
16:26:25  <Beardie> never have done
16:26:33  <Beardie> i only learnt about bundle_zip today
16:26:40  <Ammler> so you used the zip from bundles and renamed it?
16:26:54  <Beardie> for that instantance were i uploaded manually yes
16:27:08  <Beardie> which btw i have removed and linked everything striaght to the original bundle
16:28:06  <Ammler> well, the original bundle has a silly name :-)
16:28:12  <Beardie> well yes
16:28:21  <Beardie> but i can be changed when i tag new 0.1.1
16:29:02  <Ammler> well, a new release just because of the zip name is abit too much
16:29:08  <Beardie> well i know
16:29:19  <Beardie> just saying for when it is done it woudl do that etc
16:29:32  <Beardie> next release would be correct
16:29:42  <Ammler> yes, that we hope :-P
16:30:05  <Ammler> test it with a 0.1.1-rc :-P
16:30:23  <Beardie> i am testing it now on a extra cloned repo
16:30:45  <Ammler> feel free to make a test-was on devzone
16:31:11  <Beardie> its ok
16:31:53  <Beardie> it did not tag it
16:32:46  <Beardie> just does was-dev-r1111
16:32:51  <Beardie> not was-0.2
16:33:39  <Beardie> be back in 20 mins whilst i  ponder
16:33:46  <Ammler> well, that is point, ngihtly was always fine, afaik, the issue was with tag
16:46:50  <Beardie> well when i relased was 0.1
16:47:00  <Beardie> the release zip had was-0.1v0.1
16:47:05  <Beardie> which is
16:47:33  <Beardie> (FILENAME)-(REPO_TAGS)(GRF_MODIFIED)
16:52:27  <Ammler> looks like filename is was-<tag>
16:52:36  <Beardie> yes
16:53:03  <Beardie> so does that mean it worked?
16:53:25  <Ammler> no, that means (FILENAME)-(REPO_TAGS)(GRF_MODIFIED) is bad
16:53:30  <Ammler> it should be just filename
16:53:31  <Beardie> yes i know
16:54:03  <Beardie> sorry yes it was ignoring the repo_tags
16:54:12  <Beardie> btw the repo_tags is pulling from hg id -t
16:54:16  <Beardie> guessing it should not be
16:54:53  <Ammler> why not?
16:55:07  <Beardie> well where shoud it be reading the tag from
16:55:17  <Beardie> should it be pulling ti from hg id
16:55:23  <Beardie> tip
16:55:23  <Ammler> why not?
16:56:06  <Beardie> becuase the hg tip after i did a hg tag is still showing a revision numbeR?
16:56:08  <Ammler> well, it might check for tip and not use it in that case
16:56:21  <Beardie> REPO_TAGS    = $(shell hg id -t | grep -v "tip")
16:56:23  <Ammler> a taged changeset can never be tip
16:56:31  <planetmaker> ^
16:56:50  <planetmaker> tagging a revision automatically advances tip one revision. thus you need to update to the tag afterwards
16:57:08  <Ammler> hg tag 0.2-test ; hg up 0.2-test
16:57:54  <Beardie> thats the ticket!
16:58:01  <Beardie> dundle file name
16:58:06  <Beardie> was-v0.2
16:58:07  <Ammler> :-)
16:58:32  <Beardie> i was just missing hg up
16:58:52  <Ammler> tip is kind of depreciated, there is no use of it
16:59:27  <Ammler> it only included the hassle to always exclude it
16:59:30  <Beardie> ok well its good that is sorted
17:00:05  <Ammler> that we will see in the next relase you do :-P
17:00:12  <Beardie> solol tru
17:00:25  <Beardie> still left with this issue were its not making a local zip bunde
17:00:25  <Ammler> if you like, we can manually rename your file as goodwill ;-)
17:00:51  <Beardie> you can? yes please :)
17:01:21  <Ammler> you ant was-v0.1.zip or was-0.1.zip ?
17:01:29  <Beardie> add the v please
17:01:45  <Ammler> done
17:02:07  <Ammler> symlinked the ugly one
17:02:17  <Beardie> ty ammler
17:02:55  <Beardie> so
17:02:58  <Beardie> hg tag 0.2
17:03:00  <Beardie> hg up 0.2
17:03:02  <Beardie> hg push
17:03:12  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1110:8d433246d2eb: Made another small change to makefile, had captial... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/8d433246d2eb
17:03:13  <Beardie> creates a new release with correct zip line
17:03:22  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1109 to r1110 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1110
17:03:32  <Ammler> hg up is for your workcopy
17:03:39  <Beardie> right
17:03:44  <Beardie> so it works for my work copy
17:03:50  <Beardie> then it would be correct online
17:04:09  <Ammler> it is also liked to forget to update again to tip after it
17:04:15  <Ammler> so you likely build another head
17:04:31  <Ammler> but as you like merging, this should not hurt you :-P
17:04:46  <Beardie> merging is only fun when it says it will do it, lol
17:05:06  <Beardie> Anyway sorry for another (and hopefully last) issues, the local bundle zip issue?
17:05:21  <Beardie> make bundle works fine just puts it in a folder
17:05:29  <Ammler> discover how you could build a zip locally
17:05:40  <Beardie> info online?
17:05:52  <Beardie> i shall have a gangder
17:05:58  <Ammler> we use 7za on the server
17:06:16  <Ammler> I guess, the makefile framework default setting is with zip
17:06:46  <Beardie> but where is it pulling zip from? does it acutally need to be a progem
17:07:32  <Ammler> ZIP            ?= zip
17:07:42  <Ammler> 
17:07:44  <Ammler> ZIP_FLAGS      ?= -9rq
17:07:59  <Ammler> yes, program called zip
17:08:03  <Beardie> lol
17:08:09  <Beardie> were ever that is?
17:08:10  <Ammler> I assume, that should be no big issue on windows
17:08:15  <Beardie> yeah
17:08:19  <Ammler> isn't it already part of it?
17:08:28  <Ammler> run "zip --version"
17:08:49  <Beardie> sh: zip: command not found
17:09:32  <Beardie> there was no zip command
17:10:56  <Yexo> Beardie: try "mingw-get install msys-zip"
17:11:28  <Beardie> mingw-get not a command
17:12:16  <Yexo> hmm, so your version of mingw is not very recent
17:12:36  <Beardie> i got 5.1.4
17:13:15  <Beardie> should it be install alongside my repo?
17:13:31  <Yexo> try to find a zip.exe somewhere
17:13:45  <Yexo> although I haven't had much luck trying to find one just now
17:13:49  <Beardie> serached no file on my computer
17:13:58  <Yexo> that was obvious :)
17:14:02  <Beardie> XD
17:14:03  <Yexo> you need to download it
17:14:05  <Beardie> yes
17:14:14  <Beardie> and put it were exactly?
17:14:23  <Yexo> depends on your installation
17:14:31  <Yexo> C:/mingw/bin/ or something like that
17:14:44  <Yexo> in some bin/ directory under mingw or msys
17:14:53  <Yexo> try some until it works
17:18:08  <Ammler> echo $PATH
17:18:23  <Ammler> or "which make"
17:18:29  <Beardie> echo $PATH?
17:18:32  <Ammler> then put it on same path
17:18:40  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1095 to r1110 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/nightlies/r1110
17:20:08  <Brot6> firs: update from r2884 to r2886 done (28 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2886
17:27:36  <planetmaker> Yexo, did you see http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4236 ?
17:33:27  <Yexo> not yet, reading now
17:37:41  <Yexo> making another 0.2 release seems like a good idea
17:37:52  <Yexo> the list of things to backport does feel a bit arbitrary though
17:39:18  <Yexo> but I don't have suggestions on how to better divide it
17:39:29  <Yexo> on second thought it looked much more logical
17:39:31  <Ammler> maybe you should first make a poll, if someone is still using 0.2
17:40:14  <Yexo> people are using 0.2
17:40:31  <Yexo> there have been multiple requests to keep nml compatible with "older openttd versions", ie chills pp
17:41:51  <planetmaker> I tried to keep out the big changes. And focus on the things which should be feasible with reasonable work and which are not really v8
17:42:10  <planetmaker> and yes, we don't need a poll. It's been asked for multiple times
17:42:33  <Ammler> ok :-)
17:42:58  <Yexo> do you want to backport it? I have some time for it now too
17:43:48  <planetmaker> I probably won't have too much time today, most likely. But I might start it continue it the week or so
17:44:00  <Ammler> but there is sill no >0.2 release, right?
17:44:05  <planetmaker> but if you like to do it, please, by all means, go for it or start it. I first have to bake a cake now ;-)
17:44:16  <Yexo> Ammler: no
17:44:28  <planetmaker> 0.3 release is still pending :-)
17:44:38  <planetmaker> I wonder when we want to do that, yexo
17:44:43  <planetmaker> the 0.3 release
17:44:48  <Yexo> when we finish either stations or bridges (or both)
17:44:54  <planetmaker> ok
17:46:28  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Feature Request #4234: disable fences XTransportmanX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4234#change-11623
17:51:26  <Beardie> ty yexo and ammler i updated my mingw and then download mingw-get isntall msys.zip
17:51:31  <Beardie> zip works fine now :)
17:54:51  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4235 (Closed): Change The Name of The GRF To Reflect GRF Version XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4235
17:54:51  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4237 (Closed): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4237
17:54:51  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4237 (Closed): DevZone compile failed XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4237#change-11624
17:54:51  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4235 (Closed): Change The Name of The GRF To Reflect GRF Version XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4235#change-11625
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18:19:05  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 2033:1c67de09d32b: Fix: Sprite layout register code contained an uns... XHirundoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/1c67de09d32b
18:19:05  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 2016:84b0add7957e: Backport r1899 / r1900: Provide a proper error me... XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/84b0add7957e
18:22:04  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4238 (New): Finish Greyscale and Code A330-200F XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4238
18:22:37  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Support #4236: Support for 0.2 series XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4236#change-11627
18:22:59  <Yexo> planetmaker: most work done :)
18:23:09  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4239 (New): Code A340-500 and add PCXs XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4239
18:23:09  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4240 (New): Code A380-900 and Add Greyscale XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4240
18:24:02  <Hirundo> Yexo: Nice :-)
18:24:29  <Yexo> pm did the hard work by making the list
18:26:04  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4241 (New): Code ATR 42-500 and add Greyscale XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4241
18:27:33  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4242 (New): Code ATR 72-200F XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4242
18:28:37  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4242 (New): Code ATR 72-200F XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4242
18:34:52  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4243 (New): Code BAC 1-11-200 with Greyscale XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4243
18:34:52  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4244 (New): Code BAC 1-11-300 with Greyscale XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4244
18:35:17  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4245 (New): Code BAC 1-11-400 with Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4245
18:36:45  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4246 (New): Examine BAC 1-11-200 Greyscale Then Code XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4246
18:39:38  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4247 (New): Code Bae146-100/ARJ70 With Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4247
18:42:47  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4248 (New): Code BAe146-200/ARJ85 With Greyscales and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4248
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18:44:29  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4249 (New): Code BAe146-300F Only Repaint TNT XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4249
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18:50:03  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4250 (New): Check Over Then Code Boeing B707-320 and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4250
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18:52:51  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4251 (New): Check Over Then Code Boeing B707-420 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4251
18:54:40  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4252 (New): Code Boeing B727-100 With Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4252
18:56:13  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4253 (New): Code Boeing B747-100 With Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4253
18:57:22  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4254 (New): Code Boeing B747-300 With Greyscales and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4254
19:00:19  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4255 (New): Align Both B747-8F and B747-8I Sprites - Then Code Greysc... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4255
19:01:43  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4256 (New): Review Boeing 757-200F Greyscale and Repaint XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4256
19:01:47  <planetmaker> oh, nice, Yexo :-)
19:02:22  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4257 (New): Code Boeing B757-300 With Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4257
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19:03:14  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4258 (New): Code Boeing B767-200 With Greyscale XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4258
19:05:58  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4259 (New): Code Boeing B777F With Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4259
19:15:05  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4260 (New): Code Bombardier Dash 8-100 Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4260
19:16:01  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4261 (New): Code Bombardier Dash 8-200/200Q Greyscale XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4261
19:22:44  <planetmaker> I guess I agree with your comments, Yexo. I compiled the list mostly from just the hg log output as I pasted it there
19:23:09  <planetmaker> r1961 (aircraft range) indeed might be nice and shouldn't pose too much problems, I guess
19:24:49  <Rubidium> will that be compatible with chillpp?
19:25:37  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4262 (New): Code Bombardier Dash 8-300/300Q Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4262
19:26:03  <planetmaker> probably not... probably it predates that property
19:26:47  <planetmaker> but they could still use it and still have the NewGRF compatible with chillpp when ignoring there
19:27:31  <Rubidium> but doesn't OpenTTD reject the NewGRF because the unknown property?
19:27:35  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4263 (New): Check Over Embraer E-195 Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4263
19:27:49  <Rubidium> i.e. you need to manually add the version test for that property
19:30:09  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4264 (New): Check MD DC8-10 Greyscale and Code XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4264
19:30:57  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4265 (New): Check MD DC8-20 Greyscale and Code XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4265
19:31:34  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4266 (New): Code MD DC8-30 With Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4266
19:32:31  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4267 (New): Check MD DC8-40 Greyscale and Code XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4267
19:32:31  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4268 (New): Check MD DC8-50 Greyscale and Code XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4268
19:36:35  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4269 (New): Code MD DC9-10 With Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4269
19:37:07  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4270 (New): Code MD DC9-20 With Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4270
19:37:36  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4271 (New): Code MD DC9-30 With Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4271
19:38:32  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4272 (New): Code MD DC9-40 With Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4272
19:39:18  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4273 (New): Code MD DC9-50 With Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4273
19:40:05  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4274 (New): Code MD MD87 With Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4274
19:41:36  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4275 (New): Code MD DC10-10 Greyscale XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4275
19:42:16  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4276 (New): Code MD DC10-40 Greyscale XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4276
19:43:51  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4277 (New): Check Tupolev Tu134 and Code Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4277
19:45:54  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4278 (New): Check Tupolev Tu154B and Code Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4278
19:48:51  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #580 (Rejected): Tupolev Tu 104/124/134 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/580#change-11634
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20:21:25  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4278 (New): Check Tupolev Tu154B and Code Greyscale and Repaints XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4278
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20:42:06  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1111:a614fa73cd03: Added Cockpit Windows to All Airbus A330-200s XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/a614fa73cd03
20:42:37  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1110 to r1111 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1111
21:12:02  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1111 to r1112 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1112
21:12:23  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1112:942cfd256980: Added Cockpit Windows to All Airbus A330-300s XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/942cfd256980
21:18:18  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4279 (New): Check Through list of repaints Found From TT-Forums XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4279
21:41:39  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1113:820c8c12ee07: Added Cockpit Windows to All Airbus A340-300s XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/820c8c12ee07
21:41:50  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1112 to r1113 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1113
21:55:38  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1114:666ed15ca664: Added Cockpit Windows to All Airbus A340-600s XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/666ed15ca664
21:55:40  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1113 to r1114 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1114
22:05:50  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4187 (Closed): Add Cockpit Windows To All A330s & A340s XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4187#change-11666
23:08:30  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1115:f64e88f68056: Fully Coded and Added ATR 42-500 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/f64e88f68056
23:08:39  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1114 to r1115 done (4 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1115
23:13:18  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Code Review #4280 (New): ATR 42-300/500 72-200/500 May All Have Incorrect Rang... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4280
23:14:13  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Code Review #4280 (New): ATR 42-300/500 72-200/500 May All Have Incorrect Rang... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4280
23:18:21  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 2034:6c1d2b6475c7: Add: Support for aircraft range property XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/6c1d2b6475c7
23:18:22  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 2035:7e7fc2aa211d: Fix: Missing purchase_range callback XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/7e7fc2aa211d
23:21:19  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Support #4236: Support for 0.2 series XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4236#change-11671
23:21:28  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1115 to r1116 done (4 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1116
23:21:29  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1116:7732a7fe6762: Adding Coding Table Temp File, I Added By Accident... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/7732a7fe6762
23:22:34  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1117:8b0fae93dbe7: Removed Previous File Error XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/8b0fae93dbe7
23:22:38  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1116 to r1117 done (4 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1117
23:23:57  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1117 to r1118 done (4 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1118
23:24:15  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1118:45fd4d5ef56a: Updated .hgignore to ignore previous file error XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/45fd4d5ef56a
23:30:32  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1119:a1894ebd7b89: Removing Final Error on Feature #4241 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/a1894ebd7b89
23:31:00  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1118 to r1119 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1119
23:32:31  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Feature #4241 (Closed): Code ATR 42-500 and add Greyscale XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4241#change-11673
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